Re: Life's Lethal Quality Control?

From: Kevin Freels (megaquark@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Sep 04 2003 - 12:39:15 MDT

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    Thanks for the terrific input. One of these days I expect to be as well read
    in these matters
    as so many of you seem to be. I'm 32 and playing catch-up from the time I
    wasted from age 14-28 where I did absolutely nothing but waste precious
    time. I'd like some input on a couple of things you wrote in your last
    message.

    "If anything, it's those
    with the least resources and most disrupted family arrangements who are
    likely to have a larger brood."

    --This doesn't bode well for the future of humanity. Especially since there
    is a tendency for the brood to feed back on itself and reproduce the same
    type of environment in their own offsping. Fortunately, there is the
    occasion where the offsring get out of that loop and try to make a more
    positive life...much like my own life.

    Accumulating errors exceed the ability of
    repair systems to proofread fix them, even (to a lesser extent) the sex
    cells. But this analysis, as we have seen, assumes part of what needs to be
    demonstrated - that older organisms automatically cease breeding reliably.
    While that is contingently true of complex creatures, as we have just seen,
    what we need to ask is: why it should be so

    Has this in fact been demonstrated? It would make sense.
    It seems to me that nothing could be reproduced perfectly every time. It
    would require perfection which I don;t think is natural. Nature only gives
    us the lower boundaries of the possible. Perfection, not being necessary to
    reproduction, does not exist. If errors did not occur that exceeded the
    repair systems abilities to correct them, we wouldn't even be here.
    So if you take uncorrectable errors as a natural part of life, it would only
    make sense that older organisms fail to reproduce reliably over time.

    "Why, after all, shouldn't the machinery of the body's maintenance systems
    keep working at peak efficiency forever? The accepted answer is that there
    are better strategic trade-offs for available energy and coding, trade-offs
    that allow the old to wear out and die."

    The accepted answer may be close to correct, but I think it is much simpler.
    Nature simply doesn't have a goal. Without a goal, perfection could not be
    reached. Nature could produce the bird, but it couldn't produce the f-16.
    (not that the f-16 is perfect and yes, it is far less efficient). It takes
    intelligence to create something likened to perfection. If anything were
    perfect, or close to it, it would simply stay the same. Cockroaches come to
    mind here for some odd reason.



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