From: Paul Grant (shade999@optonline.net)
Date: Fri Jul 11 2003 - 21:30:36 MDT
you :
This is also my view , that gravity being instantanious gives an
unbeatable method of information transfer. That is of course depending
on the propgation speed. Everything I have read thus far states that the
propogation is istantanious. I do have some serious worries about this
and will closely watch the results of any experiments that are
performed.
The only way I can easily except that the propogation is instananious,
is that every particle in the universe that exerts gravity. Is entagled
with every other particle. I can 'kind of' except this, baring in mind
that all the particles came from the sub-atomic soup that existed pre
big bang.
I did spend a few brain cycles on a possible experiment utilising the
apparent ability of cryogenic superconducters to reduce gravity. I didnt
get very far due to the math and the constant nagging in the back of my
mind that if we mess around with gravity, we also mess with time and
have to somehow factor this into the eqautions.
me:
I don't think sub atomic stuff existed pre big bang; I tend to view
matter from a semantic point of view;
which is to say, the particles that we observe are defined by their
relationships to other particles...and
that what we term matter is a predomiment form of energy because of its
stability, and the its immediate
measurability... its a hunch, or barring that being acceptable, a
theoretical model/construct thats proven to
be quite useful without containing any (apparent to an educated layman)
flaws...
In any event, the curvature of space is occurring daily :) So I'm not
worried (past some great catastrophe
like messing around with planet orbits or the like) about communication
using gravity pulses. My current
research interests (which will be indulged [rigourously] shortly) are
leaning towards waves and waveguides...
There's some very interesting work being done on the subject, by a
physicist out of Columbia U., where
he's working on setting up a computer system to qualify stellar objects
based on the gravitational pulses
(for which he's built a particularly sensitive detector).... thats the
most similar research I've seen, minus the
speed of gravity propogation (which is largely theoretical at this
point).
In any event, thats what my money's on :) That, or another really
interesting piece of research regarding
coupled photons emitted as part of some quantum event; they're coupled
because once you observe one,
the other immediately takes the opposite rotation or somesuch... if you
had a way of seperating such photons,
storing them, and then influencing their particular orientation, I
daresay you would have the beginnings
of a faster-than-light communication system. the aforementioned effect
however, was only tested to
the distance of 3-4 meters or somesuch... you would still have to
distribute the photons though, between the
end parties :) and for a really fun extra, the system would be
untappable (at least at current tech levels).
There's also another really interesting piece of research, out of
germany I believe... they were beaming
a source of light through an opaque material.... and they were depending
on a certain amount (relative to the
total amount) of light particles to tunnel through the material...
There's no reason why you couldn't set up
something similar and just toss out a lot of energy.... checksum and ack
the data as it arrives... Supposedly
(since I don't subscribe to any physics journals yet), their work has
been independantly confirmed...
They played bach or somesuch over the carrier wave...
As to messing around with time through gravity, like I said, its
occurring daily :) I'm more worried
about identifying the particular signal over the noise more than
anything else :)
omard-out
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