Re: Why believe the truth?

From: Eliezer S. Yudkowsky (sentience@pobox.com)
Date: Tue Jun 17 2003 - 15:46:14 MDT

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    Robin Hanson wrote:
    >
    > Yes, humans are naturally moderately rational, and naturally use and
    > improve that rationality as long as doing so does not threaten our
    > cherished self-deceptions. The extra cost I had in mind was having to
    > deal with an "enemy" (our subconscious) that knows us very well and has
    > had long evolution-embodied experience in fooling us into thinking we
    > have made progress when we have not. My estimate that this cost is very
    > high is in part based on the very small fraction of people that seem to
    > incur this cost and successfully overcome their biases.

    This cost is not a loss as a result of rationality, it's an expenditure
    that needs to be made to get to rationality... um, review: what is it, if
    anything, that we still disagree about? I would say that, even
    instrumentally, the benefits of rationality are higher than the losses,
    and that the costs involved do not alter this. I am under the impression
    you still disagree with this, or that you assign it a weaker degree of
    belief? I confess I wasn't even counting the time-energy budget as a
    loss, just taking it for granted as something a person's gotta do
    eventually. However, even taking into account the substantial cost in
    time and mental energy, I still say it's the all-time best investment I
    ever made and I still think it's worth a shot for others too.

    > As an aside, I actually have high hopes that we can improve people's
    > incentives to be rational in their contributions to collective consensus
    > via wider use of betting markets. People are more rational when they
    > bet, for obvious reasons.

    Depends on the bias. If I recall the research correctly, most biases
    studied don't go away because of minor financial incentives. Whether an
    entire market with major incentives can, over time, build up a discipline
    and a body of knowledge to beat bias, is a separate issue. But, yes, I
    agree that rationality may be substantially improved.

    -- 
    Eliezer S. Yudkowsky                          http://singinst.org/
    Research Fellow, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence
    


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