Re: [WAR]: not about WMD

From: I William Wiser (will@wiserlife.com)
Date: Fri Apr 25 2003 - 16:21:48 MDT

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    Michael Wiik wrote:

    > So how 'bout that? It's not like it was a conspiracy: PNAC has a website
    > and puts spokesbots on cable TV news. Aggressive war as a show of force.
    > Killing folks to show how much better democracy is. Ain't it great?!?!?
    >
    > Who will we attack next to illustrate the benefits of democracy? Think
    > of it -- each JDAM is actually a seed of hope! Children shall eat of its
    > fruit!

    I'm not arguing for the war in Iraq but be fair...

    It's not killing folks to show democracy is better. It's removing
    an oppressive dictatorship to give democracy a chance. Killing
    people is an sad side effect.

    In theory the show of force is a message to people who think in terms of
    force. A cynic could view it as a message from Washington to do what
    we say or else. But one could also view it as making an example of a
    criminal to tell other criminals to clean up there acts or else. I think
    other
    methods would have worked better but bottom line either Saddam
    Hussein's regime had it coming or it did not.

    It does trouble me that governments (people) so seldom give their own
    reasons for things. Politicians tend to sell you on the features you want
    to hear. I can believe that Washington was concerned about WMD
    and aggression from Iraq but not seriously concerned. Liberating the
    Iraqi people was an easier sell after the fact because so far the costs have
    not been high to Americans. That Washington mostly wanted to see a
    democracy in Iraqi as an Arab example of a better system does not
    bother me. That oil and strategic concerns are a big part of the equation
    does not bother me. All in all either the war was predictably likely to be
    a net win for the US, the world, and the Iraqi people or it was not.

    How much better if Washington had said: Saddam is a son of a bitch
    let's go take him out of power as a message to all of the other bastards
    in the world. It will be good for the Iraqi people. Our businessmen
    can make a profit. Our soldiers can play with their toys. The world will
    be better off without him in power. It may help the whole Middle East
    situation. Hell, it might even give Americans a moral boost. Any
    objections?

    As a libertarian I think the war would have been better funded by
    voluntary contribution. I think governments initiate force way to often
    and are wasteful of resources. Leaving that aside was it a good thing
    for some group to remove Saddam Hussein and his government from
    power? Would the Iraqi people approve? Will they be better off?
    Is it something the US could afford? Were there obviously better
    things to work on? I'm not so sure I was for the war but I'm not
    sure it was a bad thing either. Time will tell.



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