Re: Inability to see the enemy (was RE: IRAQ sort of: Re: Tim May calls for nuking of D.C.)

From: Cory Przybyla (recherchetenet@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Feb 21 2003 - 01:26:39 MST

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    --- Lee Corbin <lcorbin@tsoft.com> wrote:
    > Cory writes
    >
    > > I've never read in a history book of an invaded
    > > land...and I mean close enough proximity to see,
    > > where people were holding a peace protest and
    > > not scrambling for their lives. Am I wrong?
    >
    > Yes. Athens in the Peloponnesian War:
    >
    > While Spartan forces were marauding the countryside
    > around Athens, the asshole Socrates and others were
    > saying everything pro-Sparta that they could think
    > of. A certain playwright was advocating peace and
    > disarmament in his theatrical productions.

    Well, I stand corrected. Any good references, or
    details on this event? I didn't study really any
    ancient Greecian history, but as I recall Socrates
    didn't write any books, and his followers only
    documented things in their aftermaths.

    > The worst crime of it was that a number of people
    > were listening to Socrates, and applauding those
    > productions, and this at a time when Spartan
    > tyranny was well-known. So next time some loony
    > leftist seems to be going beyond all reason, just
    > remember that so did "the wisest of them all".

    the wisest of all leftists, or the wisest of all
    humans?

    > Alas, some people's emotions, healthy prejudices,
    > and natural human common sense are simply broken.

    Well, actually he didn't die until a later trial which
    even then he could have chosen to flee rather than
    become an intellectual martyr, so until I find out
    more of his motives, and the scenario, I can't say for
    certain that Socrates common sense was really broken.

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