From: Spudboy100@aol.com
Date: Fri Feb 14 2003 - 14:05:18 MST
D. Broderick noted:
<<Mitch, you know that `bully' is a word used by victims to condemn such
thugs.>>
Yes, America is indeed, a bully to Iraq, and North Korea, and for that matter
Serbia's Milosovic. Also Shiite terrorist Iran, I would hope. Yes, indeed.
Hopefully we are victimizing the victimizers; those who have thrown the first
sucker punch.
<<More importantly, perhaps: I thought this was the extropian list, not the
committee to better ensure American safety.>>
I would say that Extropianism, and Transhumanism would not survive for long,
at this stage, if the US were to disappear, dwindle, or withdraw into
isolationism. Many would cheer all three of those occurrences, but I surmise
they would not cheer, the ultimate, intermediate results.
<<It might be that doing the latter via state military force is by and large
a
prerequisite for the advancement of the extropian agenda, but that is not
entirely obvious, especially given the large proportion of extropians who
ardently dislike centralized authority, initiation of force, and so on.
Damien Broderick
Again, Extropianism and Transhumanism would be back-burnered, even more then
now, because the EU and whomever would then be greatly involved in what the
Anthropologists call "competitions." You can't really afford to spend time
analyzing the viability of space elevators, or the promise of uploading, when
you are forced to defend your boarders.
<<[currently in America and not all that eager to see American safety
compromised] >>
America compromised its own safety by not seeing a danger for what it was and
is. Even our current leadership still has let the House of Ibn Saud off the
hook for a lot of our deaths on the USS Cole, the embassy bombings, the
khobar towers, 9-11, and so forth. This, again, is a problem of preception
and political will. Our continuing fault in this case, not Europe's, but
ourselves.
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