Re: Rationalism [was: Re: RANT]

Date: Fri Nov 17 2000 - 11:05:44 MST

In a message dated Fri, 17 Nov 2000 4:59:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Samantha Atkins <> writes:

>>Substitute transcendent consciousnes (transcendent of current limitations
continuously) for spirit if you will. Then tell me being xtropian is not
profoundly spiritual. It is the ultimate triumph of spirit (consciousness)
over limitations (all the way to the maximum tinkering in the works that may
someday be possible. all the way to Omega Point perhaps).
- samantha

I totally agree with that. My point of contention is that the road to that
ultimate triumph will be walked by rationalists, by scientists and engineers
who will methodically map the path and then pave the ground and build the
bridges that will lead us to that point. No mystic sitting in a mountaintop
will do it. I believe that we will transcend the human condition, but this
transcendence will come from first understanding and then improving said
condition, and the tools for both will be your basic obersvation, theorizing
and experimentation -- the simple method that has allowed us to control our
environment instead of being controlled by it, and which now may allow us to
side-step evolution and dicate our own advancement.
All IMHO, of course.


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