Re: MJ, carnitine and DHEA (Was: Re: Time for a jump in quality?)

Alejandro Dubrovsky (
Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:35:36 +1000 (GMT+1000)

On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, den Otter wrote:
> Point by point:
> Fun -- This is something most people can agree on ;-) I have found that the
> more depressed you are before use, the happier you will get after. There is
> no dip as you "return to normal"; you stay in a good mood (effects may
> vary from person to person, and from situation to situation but ik works
> for me).
> Aphrodisiac -- THC increases the heart rate and general blood flow,
> while at the same time inhibitations melt away and the imagination works
> overtime. These are the clinical facts, the real thing is MUCH better
> (try for yourself).
> Better sensory processing -- all senses are intensified, and it's a lot easier to
> focus on any one of them. Food for example becomes a whole new
> experience.
> Critical thinking -- when high you see all kinds of interesting things about
> events and people that you didn't notice before, new insights often just pop
> into your head.
> I know many people on this list are prejudiced when it comes to drugs
> like marijuana, but they should really try it for themselves first (a couple
> of times, it usually doesn't work properly the first time) and then make an
> *informed* judgement. You don't have to explain why MJ is
> transhumanistically relevant to anyone who has actually tried it ;-)
i'm not so sure. i do agree with its effects as an aphrodisiac and a
sensory enhancer, but not as as a critical thinking tool due to two
reasons. Firstly, most of the "great ideas and insights" you get when you
(or at least i) are stoned, are just pretty standard cool ideas otherwise
(that is ideas that you do get while in normal state but don't get past
the higher critical level of "originality" needed for it to be remembered)
Secondly, it puts me to sleep, unless i fight it, so not much enjoyment
conciously registered. I also am definitely no happier the next day.