Re: CULTURE: Interesting Chicago Statistics

From: Brian D Williams (
Date: Thu Jan 04 2001 - 13:26:58 MST

From: Harvey Newstrom <>

>Unfortunately, this is bad statistics, false logic and a non
>sequitur. Even if the facts are true and the conclusion are true,
>this sequence of logic is unsupportable.

> 1. Chicago has more murders than Dupage County
> 2. Chicago has more restrictive gun laws than Dupage
> County
> 3. Therefore restrictive gun laws cause murders.

>I support gun rights, but do not want to see false arguments used
>to promote freedom. Truth supports freedom.

I agree, I must have missed the post where someone was arguing that
position. I was arguing against the anti-g** position.

1) easy access to g**s results in more murder/crime.


2) restricting/eliminating access to g**s will reduce/eliminate

1A) DuPage county has easy access to g**s and no murder/less crime

2A) Chicago has NO/eliminated access to handg**s yet murder/crime

3) Statistics prove both 1&2 incorrect, and support 1A&2A.


4) easy access to g**s has no effect on crime/murder.

and possibly:

4A) easy access to g**s may reduce/prevent crime/murder.


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