Re: CULTURE: Interesting Chicago Statistics

From: Michael S. Lorrey (mlorrey@datamann.com)
Date: Thu Jan 04 2001 - 15:11:30 MST


Thanks for the greater detail Brian. BTW: I lost a refrence to a story I
had read about a memo by Ted Turner directing CNN news staff to not
portray guns or private gun ownership in a positive light. If anyone has
it handy I'd appreciate it....

Brian D Williams wrote:
>
> From: Harvey Newstrom <mail@HarveyNewstrom.com>
>
> >Unfortunately, this is bad statistics, false logic and a non
> >sequitur. Even if the facts are true and the conclusion are true,
> >this sequence of logic is unsupportable.
>
> > 1. Chicago has more murders than Dupage County
> > 2. Chicago has more restrictive gun laws than Dupage
> > County
> > 3. Therefore restrictive gun laws cause murders.
>
> >I support gun rights, but do not want to see false arguments used
> >to promote freedom. Truth supports freedom.
>
> I agree, I must have missed the post where someone was arguing that
> position. I was arguing against the anti-g** position.
>
> 1) easy access to g**s results in more murder/crime.
>
> therefore:
>
> 2) restricting/eliminating access to g**s will reduce/eliminate
> crime.
>
> 1A) DuPage county has easy access to g**s and no murder/less crime
>
> 2A) Chicago has NO/eliminated access to handg**s yet murder/crime
> persist.
>
> 3) Statistics prove both 1&2 incorrect, and support 1A&2A.
>
> therefore:
>
> 4) easy access to g**s has no effect on crime/murder.
>
> and possibly:
>
> 4A) easy access to g**s may reduce/prevent crime/murder.
>
> Brian
>
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