From: JDP (jacques@dtext.com)
Date: Thu Jul 24 2003 - 12:16:40 MDT
Giu1i0 Pri5c0 a écrit (24.7.2003/17:39) :
> In Europe, we care much less about God. I am very happy that in the EU
> constitution under elaboration the word "God" is absent, despite pressures
> from the Vatican, and I hope it will stay out in the final version. So,
> whether something is or is not against "God's will" is much less of an issue
> over here. Unfortunately (for what concerns cryonics) Europeans are more
> sensitive than Americans to social issues. So we will see objections like
> "cryonicists buy potential immortality while the majority cannot afford it",
Yes. With the following, which is a variant:
"If cryonics actually makes sense, then everyone will want it, and it
will cost too much to the community. We better spend this money on
living people during their normal life."
Again, it's a "family-like" reasoning. "We better spend..."
The idea that cryonics may make sense, but that people will still have
to pay for it individually, is relatively alien, as all differentiated
access to medicine has been abolished in France (which is great in
some way; any bum can benefit from the best technology and the best
specialist, free; to say the truth I am amazed that such a system can
actually work; and it sort of does).
So people instantly visualize "cryonics for all", and see freezers
everywhere, and think it's crazy.
[snip other possible objections]
> Now: what can we do to help winning the Martinot case?
I don't know.
In any case, if you want to write to Rémy Martinot and his lawyer, do
it. Don't know French? I'll translate your letters.
Write the letter, write me with your letter, and I will send you back
the postal adresses and your letter translated. To make things easier
for me, please keep it relatively short (2 pages max.), and include
your letter in an email message (no attachment). Same if you want to
write someone else on this subject.
I've written this afternoon to a few French and European
libertarian-oriented organizations; it's probably what comes closest
to associations defending individual liberties. There are many
European ones, that speak English. You may want to contact them to try
persuading them they should lobby for this.
You can start at http://www.cne.org/ and go to the links section for
others.
I finish by referencing the decision of the Conseil d'Etat on the
somewhat similar case last year, which I just found on the web. It was
negative. It's obviously an important starting point for filing the
Martinot appeal to the Conseil d'Etat.
Conseil d'Etat, 5 / 7 SSR, 2002-07-29, 222180, Publié au Recueil Lebon
<http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/WAspad/Visu?cid=157070&indice=2&table=JADE&ligneDeb=1pÄ
The single most important step, in my opinion, would be for a French
lawyer who "gets it" to contact Rémy's Lawyer, Alain Fouquet from
Angers (ask for contact info). If you know a non-French lawyer who
"gets it", maybe HE knows a French lawyer who gets it. (Maybe Greg
Burch?) FInd out.
Jacques
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