RE: flame wars

From: Spike (spike66@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Jul 16 2003 - 20:38:09 MDT

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    On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 07:26:37AM -0400, Harvey Newstrom wrote:
    > Spike wrote,
    > > In June we had the quietest time I recall having
    > > seen on extropians in over 6 years...spike
    >
    > Heh. You have a strange sense of humor.

    Harvey, you are too kind bud. {8-]

    >
    > Seriously, I don't think the list has yet recovered from the latest
    > flame-war and series of personal attacks that caused ExI to start
    > moderating again...

    Is that why we did that? I was wondering.
    Curious, tho, we have had several flamefests
    way worse than the one that broke out in May
    and June. I need to check it however, for
    I was having a lot of computer problems then
    and much of my email was being automatically
    deleted, so I mighta missed it.

    In any case, this is extropians. We are
    famous for flaming each other's brains out, then
    going on the next day as if nothing happened.
    What changed?

    I had an idea that has been bothering me. We
    are seeing a recession that won't go away and
    a future that none of us expected. The late
    90s was a time that was perfect for best-do-it-so
    attitudes, was it not? We had a notion that
    the growth rate we were seeing was a runup
    before the singularity.

    Now we realize that the growth rates in just
    about anything related to the internet was all
    Worldcom-generated fiction, so much smoke and
    mirrors. My investment portfolio was a mirror
    of the times, and now it is mostly smoke. The
    list has a lot of software types, and surely
    the professional programmers must be having
    a severe case of Custer Syndrome: "Where are
    all these frigging Indians coming from?"
    Cryonics has had a few setbacks, and it is
    becoming clearer all the time that many of our
    biotech dreams are going to be fouled up by
    several parties, the Greens, the anti-globalists,
    Religion Incorporated, the liability lawyers etc.

    Perhaps the flamewar was it, but it might just
    be the times. Dynamic and practical optimism
    has been more difficult in the last couple years,
    has it not?

    spike



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