Re: flame wars

From: randy (cryofan@mylinuxisp.com)
Date: Wed Jul 16 2003 - 21:27:18 MDT

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    On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:38:09 -0700, Spike wrote:

    >> Seriously, I don't think the list has yet recovered from the latest
    >> flame-war and series of personal attacks that caused ExI to start
    >> moderating again...

    Eh...who cares about all that...

    >I had an idea that has been bothering me. We
    >are seeing a recession that won't go away and
    >a future that none of us expected. The late
    >90s was a time that was perfect for best-do-it-so
    >attitudes, was it not? We had a notion that
    >the growth rate we were seeing was a runup
    >before the singularity.

    Well said! Finally, someone on this list admits this!

    >Now we realize that the growth rates in just
    >about anything related to the internet was all
    >Worldcom-generated fiction, so much smoke and
    >mirrors. My investment portfolio was a mirror
    >of the times, and now it is mostly smoke.

    Exactly! And a lot of the science and medical news stories we are
    reading are just marketing brochures.

    >Thelist has a lot of software types, and surely
    >the professional programmers must be having
    >a severe case of Custer Syndrome: "Where are
    >all these frigging Indians coming from?"

    And when I brought this up about 2 years ago, I was shouted down as a
    xenophobic racist....

    >Cryonics has had a few setbacks, and it is
    >becoming clearer all the time that many of our
    >biotech dreams are going to be fouled up by
    >several parties, the Greens, the anti-globalists,
    >Religion Incorporated, the liability lawyers etc.

    Umm.. cryonics is probably in better shape than ever, what with the
    Ted Williams publicity and the vitrification cryopreservation
    techniques. And hard times might make (ostensibly) cheaper GE foods
    hard to ignore.

    >Perhaps the flamewar was it, but it might just
    >be the times. Dynamic and practical optimism
    >has been more difficult in the last couple years,
    >has it not?

    Yup. But still the only game in town, unless you want to return to
    dust....

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    -Randy



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