Re: some U.S. observations and notes

From: Mike Lorrey (
Date: Thu Dec 20 2001 - 08:30:32 MST>
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Samantha Atkins wrote:
> Mike Lorrey wrote:
> >
> > Samantha Atkins wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike Lorrey wrote:
> > >
> > > Actually, they deserve fundamental protections simply as human
> > > beings. If you don't think so then I don't see much point in
> > > continuing this discussion. War criminals are actually brought
> > > before high courts in most of the cases I know of. What
> > > combatants? Supsicion is not being a combatant.
> >
> > You are apparently rather ignorant of history. Under the Geneva
> > Conventions, a combatant caught in civilian clothes in a zone of combat
> > is subject to summary execution, which has been used more often than
> > not, it was not until Vietnam that one of these cases actually made it
> > into the news, because prior to that the news media was fully aware of
> > the Conventions and what they said.
> >
> History has little to do with a blatant disregard of the obvious
> differences between the detainees rounded up in the US after
> 9/11 and any such situation as you outline.
> > Prosecution of war crimes by combatants does not belong in civilian
> > courts.
> A lot hinges on who you label "combatants".

A non-citizen engaged in a conspiracy to aid, abet, give shelter, or
engage in attacks on our country are 'combatants', and 'illegal
combatants' at that, since they wear no uniform. They made our country a
combat zone by their attack on civilian targets with hijacked airliners,
since airliners could be used to attack ANY target here in the US.
Because our entire country is now a combat zone, they must live with the
consequences of their actions. Their actions created this status, thus
every member of their group found within this combat zone is therefore
an illegal combatant. Because they do not wear a uniform, they try to
blend into the law abiding muslim population, they make all muslims
legitimate targets under the Geneva Conventions. We are demonstrating
incredibly remarkable sensitivity and restraint in the small number of
the mumlim community we have detained. The Geneva Conventions, read
literally, DO, in fact, permit us to detain all individuals in the
country of the nationalities involved in the attacks. The fact that we
do not demonstrates how civilized we really are.

Once again, I suggest you read the conventions before you continue to
make a fool of yourself.

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