Re: Delaney vs. Lorrey

From: Carl Bonzer (
Date: Sun Jun 25 2000 - 18:00:32 MDT

>From: "Michael S. Lorrey" <>
>Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:21:33 -0400
>Carl Bonzer wrote:
> >
> > >From: "Michael S. Lorrey" <>
> > >
> > >Carl Bonzer wrote:
> > >>
> > >>PS Eliezer, want to put money on the claim that Brian is an idiot? I'm
> > >>serious.
> > >
> > >I'll put money down right now.
> >
> > Excellent.
> >
> > Actually, first let me say that I offer this only under the condition
> > it is not illegal to do so.
> >
> > Assuming it is not illegal I suggest something a bit different. Michael,
> > proving Brian is not an 'idiot' according to the psychological
>definition is
> > too easy, so let's do this:
> >
> > I propose a bet that he would score higher on an IQ test than you.
> > you don't think you're an idiot, this achieves the same thing as the
> > bet, but is more interesting.
> >
> > Should be simple to arrange. Michael, you and I send say $1000 to
>someone we
> > both trust (Greg Birch, I suggest). You sign up with a professional
> > psychologist for an IQ test, Brian does the same, etc., etc. (we'll need
> > hammer out those "etc.s" - verification will be tricky but not
> > Loser pays additional money in the amount of the cost of the test, and
> > perhaps some amount for time spent dealing with this.
>What IQ test is going to be used? I've done numerous ones. However
>Brians status as an idiot or not is not worth $1000 to me, and frankly,
>I don't put much trust in the sanity of psychologists, they tend to get
>into psychology in order to figure out their own sanity. Every therapist
>I've ever known has been more interested in analysing themselves than
>their patients. Moreover, Brian's particular brand of idiocy I doubt
>very much can be reflected in an IQ test.

I figured you'd find a way to weasle out of this.

I had a second bet in fact on precisely just that. Not for $1000,
unfortunately, but for a six pack of Mirror Pond Pale Ale.

I'll raise a cold one tonight to your cowardice!


PS Brian has strongly encouraged me tostop this, but I feel that Michael
deserves this and far more, until he apologizes to Brian or at least
retracts the claim (tho at this point it looks like he just won't do either
- and he won't even stand by his claim!!!!!!!!).

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