Re: Dis-engagement (was New X-humanist forums)

From: Carl Bonzer (
Date: Sun Jun 25 2000 - 13:43:20 MDT

>From: "John M Grigg" <>
>Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 02:58:22 -0900
>Hello Brian and everyone else,
>Harvey Newstrom wrote an excellent summation of this entire thread. He
> >has perception and standing on the list to state things clearly. He >put
>it better than I ever could have.


>Brian you are lucky to have Carl as a friend and apologist for you.

He sure is! Plenty of others would come forward to, but I'm the only one
ignoring Brian's stated (privately) wish not to come in to defend him. Sorry
to Brian! (I still don't understand this wish I must say. Not wanting to
subject us to the threatening emails? Wanting to try to conduct this
non-tribally? Now if the Extropians will only reciprocate!)

>Ultimately though, yes, we extropians are a somewhat "tribalistic" >group,
>though certainly not cultish. And if anyone messes with >Natasha, they're
>in for it! ;) Myself, Eliezer, and Mike Lorrey are >Natasha's "posse!"

I know Brian appreciates your efforts. But if you - as you did elsewhere -
continue to ask for apologies from Brian without also askng for them from
Natasha, you lose a lot of credit. I understand friendship though.


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