Re: Is the U.S socialist? (was Re: Neal Blaike vs Michael Lorrey)

From: Ralph Lewis (
Date: Sat Feb 17 2001 - 15:57:14 MST

Or try this factoid on:

Can you read and understand "War and Peace" in one week?

If so it would take you 25000 years to read the federal laws and regulations.

How much longer to include state and local laws as well as various private
contracts you have no control over (HMO regs, etc) I have no idea.

When I mentioned this to a group of attorneys their response was that
individual specialized in subsets of these laws and regulations.

YES, BUT the individual is subject to all of them and at least the last time
I remember "Ignorance of the law is no defense". Moreover if you try to get
help understanding these laws and regulations you will often hit a
bureaucratic blank wall.

Also BTW in many cases these are in direct conflict as we saw in Florida.

To me that spells Fascism. Not that this is new, it was seen 20 years ago
but no one took any action to prevent the Fourth Reich. See:

Author Gross, Bertram Myron, 1912-

Title Friendly fascism : the new face of power in
America / Bertram Gross.
 Imprint New York : M. Evans, c1980.

to me this is still worth reading. Although I doubt it is so friendly any more.

Best Ralph

At 09:22 PM 02/17/2001 -0000, you wrote:
>>From: Brian D Williams <>
>>Socialism: A theory or system of social organization in which the
>>means of production and distribution of goods are owned and
>>controlled collectively, or by the government.
>>Doesn't even remotely apply to the U.S.
>It does apply, remotely, in that some goods in this country are produced and
>distributed by the government. Or, at least contracted to a private company
>to produce and distribute. Here's the first examples I can come up with:
>retirement accounts, some tv/radio stations, the highway system, most
>education, and some forms of mass transportation.
>Zeb Haradon (
>My personal webpage:
>A movie I'm directing:
>"What is this, some Three Stooges episode where everyone is armed with pies?
> Bill Gates is supposed to walk through the airport with an armful of pies
>so that he can stoop to the level of his attackers?" -Chris Russo
>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30 : Mon May 28 2001 - 09:56:44 MDT