Is the U.S socialist? (was Re: Neal Blaike vs Michael Lorrey)

From: Brian D Williams (
Date: Fri Feb 16 2001 - 07:46:32 MST


>I was not writing to defend communism, but to point out that the
>one-liner "history shows that communism doesn't work" can be
>applied to capitalism as well.

Nonsense, capitalism isn't perfect, nothing is, but it works far
better than anything else that has been tried.

>This means that, in a sense, the United States is as much
>socialist as capitalist. The long conflict between the USSR and
>the US was not an ideological battle between capitalism and
>communism. It was a power struggle between two socialist nations.

Nonsense again, lets try arguing from definitions:

Capitalism: An economic system in which investment in and ownership
of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is
made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations.

The U.S in spades, note that there is no overide by government crap

Socialism: A theory or system of social organization in which the
means of production and distribution of goods are owned and
controlled collectively, or by the government.

Doesn't even remotely apply to the U.S.

>We should not be blinded by patriotic or ideological propaganda.
>We live in a mixed society, part capitalist and part socialist.

Lets not be blinded by incorrect notions of what capitalism, and
socialism are, definitions are on the table, let's see you prove


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