re: Beanstalk

From: Amara Graps (amara@amara.com)
Date: Tue Sep 09 2003 - 10:41:25 MDT

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    "Kevin Freels" megaquark@hotmail.com <mailto:megaquark@hotmail.com>

    >had questioned the breakage scenario and mentioned a possibility of:

    >>Way bad idea. imagine a scenario where a space elevator were placed =
    >>into GEO with an altitude of 36,000 km (22,369 miles).

    It could be a bad idea for other reasons too (I didn't read this
    thread, but GEO caught my eye)

    Satellites break up in GEO regularly. These large pieces are
    tracked and don't pose threats in general because their
    filling factor in space is low. However drag is not a force
    that can bring these objects down, so the GEO population is
    only growing in time.

    In addition, the smaller (<1cm) GEO debris population is not
    known well because in-situ dust/debris detectors in GEO are
    few/rare, remote sensing cannot detect the small particles,
    and we don't have enough opportunities to bring back solar
    panels and other surfaces of satellites to examine their
    hypervelocity impact record.

    People (including me) are using what we can to learn about the
    debris/dust population in GEO, but there's not enough
    data. What we've learned so far are rough flux numbers and it
    appears that debris and natural micrometeoroid number
    densities are about the same. The charges and velocities and
    masses of the tiny particles in GEO are pretty uncertain
    though. The GORID detector, twin of Ulysses' dust detector,
    which piggybacked on a Russian telecommunications satellite
    for 6 years, is likely our best data set for a while (it was
    turned off one year ago). The data is being analyzed in detail
    now.

    I hope also those people that are looking at GEO for space
    elevators are up to speed on their Earth's magnetosphere
    physics.

    GEO tends to skim the inner boundary of the plasma sheet, and
    the radiation belts and ring current are located near GEO, as
    well. During solar quiet times, the bodies orbiting at this
    location are typically at dipolar-like field lines. During
    large magnetic storms, the bodies orbiting at GEO are within
    stretched field lines. It can be a very energetic place.

    Amara

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