From: Greg Burch (gregburch@gregburch.net)
Date: Sun Aug 31 2003 - 19:00:33 MDT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robbie Lindauer
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 7:17 PM
>
> On Sunday, August 31, 2003, at 11:33 AM, Greg Burch wrote:
>
> > Imagine the volume of text it would take for each of us to set out
> > our positions in detail on these matters.
>
> I did it with three questions. Maybe you could do it with three
> answers?
>
> Were we FORCED to go to war?
> Is it BAD to bomb people without Necessity?
> Didn't "we" do that?
Fine, if it will make you feel any better, you can have my answers:
Yes
Yes
No
Is knowing my opinion on this subject of any value to you? It hardly seems
so. Now you *might* be interested in the *book* I'd have to write to
explain myself to you. But then there's the bandwidth thing.
> It's not like I'm asking you to analyze the structure of human freedom
> in its cultural dimension across temporal and sociological borders or
> something.
But, really, you are, because that's the only way I can explain my answers.
And such an exercise is precisely what I'm saying isn't really appropriate
here.
> > Imagine the effort it would take
> > to refrain from name-calling, and the consequences for the list when
> > we fail
> > to do so.
>
> I have been refraining and intend to continue to keep refraining. You?
You'll agree it's quite difficult to do so when subjects like this come up,
won't you?
> > discussion of human augmentation
> > can't.
>
> Perfection is valueless without moral perfection. I would say, the
> only worthwhile augmentation pursuit would be the moral one and that it
> OUGHT to have longevity-producing and human-improving side effects.
Now in this we're in perfect agreement. How we'd go about defining morality
to be perfected, aye, there's the rub.
GB
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