RE: Goodbye, and thanks for all the fish!

From: matus (matus@matus1976.com)
Date: Tue Jul 22 2003 - 19:05:56 MDT

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    Harvey said:
    >
    > OK. You guys win. I am leaving this forum. It is painfully
    > clear from all the messages that most people here actually
    > want to see the personal attacks, insults and flamewars
    > continue.

    Most? I saw only a handfull of respondants that suggested some personal
    attacks can be tolerated. Noting the difficulty in defining a personal
    attack, it still seems clear that 'most' is not an accurate description
    of the lists opinion. I think that the vast majority of people do not
    like personal attacks, they do not like receiving them, and are often
    disspointed in themselves after making them. However, I would remind
    Harvey how often he has argued that silence =/= support. Just because
    list members didn't rally to your cause (as Lee points out in his
    response to my whinning about getting no responses) it could very well
    mean most agree with you, or don't feel the issue is charged or
    important enough to warrant responses. Apparently only two or three
    people disagreed with you enough to feel it warranted a response.

    Those who disagree are either silent or have
    > already left. Even the moderators, board of directors, and
    > staff do not support my efforts to enforce the existing
    > rules. Somehow, this particular virtual room has been
    > remodeled into some sort of Fight Club when I wasn't looking.
    > My desire for conversation without fighting is ridiculed and
    > questioned. I apologize as I realize it is I who is out of
    > place. I will pick up my virtual beverage and head for one
    > of the many other virtual rooms filled with transhumanists.
    > I know that I will see most of you in the non-fighting
    > forums. To those who only participate here, I bid you farewell.
    >
    > --

    So because 3 people disagree with Harvey, out of this entire mailing
    list, he ups and leaves? Sheesh, if I demanded that level of low
    disagreement numbers I would rarely make it past one sentence before up
    and leaving.

    Michael Dickey

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