RE: [WAR] amazing new photo history

From: matus@matus1976.com
Date: Fri Jun 06 2003 - 01:51:22 MDT

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    >
    > Max Plumm said, amongst other things...
    > " This is even more appalling when one considers that every civilian life
    > lost in Iraq could've been saved had Saddam Hussein simply relinquished
    > power by the time of the U.S. imposed deadline. "
    >
    > This is the second time you've said this in the last day or two. You don't
    > also say "This is even more appalling when one considers that
    > every civilian
    > life lost in Iraq could've been saved had the coalition of the willing not
    > attacked in the first place." Why not?
    >
    > Emlyn
    >
    >

    He probably didnt say that because it is completely absurd.

    It is difficult for me to even began to coalesce the reasons why such a
    statement is repulsive to me as an extropian and an person who values human
    life. Regardless of your opposition to the Iraq war, had the goal of the
    coalition been simple to remove Saddam just because they wanted to, this
    would have *still* had more moral validity than a murderous dictator
    remaining in power, simply because he was a murderous dictator. Dictators
    have *no right* to be dictators!

    Every single person who died in the coalition war did so ONLY because Saddam
    did not want to give up his control over the 20 million or so people of
    Iraq. Please explain to me your ethical principles that place his choice in
    this conflict of staying in power and opposing the coalition efforts in a
    morally valid catagory. I simply can not fathom how any extropian can
    consider Saddam's actions in this situation as morally valid. Given his
    past track record of murder, future likely hood of murder, track record of
    wars and aggressiveness, systematic effort to wipe out the kurds, slaughter
    of some 50,000 shiites, suspicions of harboring WMD, economic control
    resulting in the untolds thousands of deaths, etc. etc I can not even began
    to understand how you place the moral culpability of those deaths on the
    people attempting to STOP that, instead of the person choosing and insisting
    that he must continue it.

    If I were a person of more abrasive inclination I might have more accurately
    voiced the disgust your comment spawns in me.

    Michael Dickey



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