The Simulation Argument again

From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Mon Jun 02 2003 - 18:32:07 MDT

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    The Simulation Argument is silly. It is circular logic. First, you must
    assume that there are more simulations than realities. Then, you conclude
    that since there are more simulations than realities, it is statistically
    likely that we are in one of them.

    But what if we don't conclude that there are more simulations? What if
    simulations are rare? What if perfect simulations of reality are just as
    boring as reality and nobody makes them? What if perfect simulations are so
    wonderful that only people from reality universes migrate into them and very
    few simulated people get created? What if simulations are almost always
    programmed to prevent discovery of the simulations, such that
    discovery-possible simulations are extremely rare? By assuming that
    simulations are rare, then our circular logic would have to conclude that
    statistically speaking we are likely not to be in a simulation.

    Both of these conclusions are circular and lead people to believe what they
    want to believe. There is no data either way to lead anybody into either
    conclusion. Whatever people already believe, that is where their circular
    logic will lead them. There is no statistical support in either direction.

    Furthermore, I believe their are other counter-examples to the simulation
    universe:

    - Occam's Razor suggests that simpler, more direct explanations are more
    likely to be correct. In the absence of data, there is no reason to
    postulate unfalsifiable, hidden, mystical worlds that cannot be detected or
    tested. Why stop there? Why not postulate that every religion is true?
    That all fictional stories are real? That imaginary creatures are
    everywhere when we're not looking? Etc.?

    - Theories are supposed to predict observed phenomenon. This theory is
    untestable. It predicts nothing, explains nothing, and provides no further
    information about how the universe works. Unless some theorized difference
    between a real universe and a simulated universe can be predicted, this
    theory will never be testable.

    - The very calculation of "more likely to be in a simulation" seems suspect
    to me. To do such a simple calculation we would need real measurements, and
    more importantly, some sort of mechanism for counting universes and
    simulations. If many-worlds interpretation says there are an infinite
    number of real universes, how can there be more simulations than infinity?
    If every possible universe exists, wouldn't that include many (or most)
    universes without simulations?

    - As an absurd argument, why not count dreams? They are simulations of the
    universe that seem real to us at the time. There are many more dreams than
    universes (either simulated or natural). Wouldn't this imply that we are in
    a dream instead of a simulation or reality?

    --
    Harvey Newstrom, CISSP, IAM, GSEC, IBMCP
    <www.HarveyNewstrom.com> <www.Newstaff.com>
    


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