From: matus@matus1976.com
Date: Sun Jun 15 2003 - 14:56:53 MDT
>
> In a message dated 6/14/2003 6:54:47 PM Central Standard Time,
> matus@matus1976.com writes:
>
> Question One: Does anyone else on the list feel that the current
> communist
> Vietnamese government is a legitimate one? Note I will not be
> attacking those
> who express this opinion, I am just curious how prevalent this
> opinion is on
> this list. Samantha, do YOU feel the current communist
> government of Vietnam is
> a legitimate one? Does anyone on this list (besides Jeff) feel as much?
>
> Answers with a question. Is anyone silly enough to think the
> government is
> anything less than a cash cow for the criminal syndicate that controls it.
I take that as a 'no, the vietnamese govt is not legit.'
So far that is two 'NO's, if you feel the Vietnamese govt is legit, please
speak up!
>
> Question Two: Jeff makes various assertions about my debating abilities,
> including claiming that many of my 'facts' are inventions of my
> ideology, I am
> dishonest and insulting, incoherent, I am not qualified to
> discuss political
> topics, undisciplined, lack effort, responsibility, and skill.
> In addition, I
> have no capacity or inclination to distinguish fact from fantasy,
> and no logical
> coherence, and that Jeff will refrain from responding to me until
> I get better
> at 'thinking about such matters' With that I mind, I submit humbly to the
> list the question, do others feel this is an accurate description
> of my presence
> on the list.
>
> Answer, As to whether or not you occasionally fall from grace I
> can't say. I
> have never noticed you doing anything that was a major
> transgression from the
> rules of good sportsmanship. Most of your time is spent exposing Jeff's
> tactics. I say that with a certain admiration for Jeff's
> expertise at that game
> -- he and my ex mother in law could gain employment teaching the
> Marine Corps
> dirty fighting.
> The level of your debating skills would no doubt show an
> apparent (but
> not real) improvement in a debate between gentlemen.
> Ron h.
>
Ron, thanks for you positive comments, I take them to be you generally do
not agree with Jeff's description of my mailing list presence. However,
since we tend to almost always agree on matters of politics, I am afraid
others will find it difficult to take your evaluation of me as objective,
though I value your comments.
I would still be interested in hearing from other members of the mailing
list on this, hopefully ones that generally do not partake in debates with
me, but have perhaps read through some of my discussions.
So far, Spike and Ron are the only ones to have responded, if the majority
of this list felt that I was a dishonest debater, and I honestly asked as
much, I suspect they would readily tell me as much. If you feel Jeff's
comments are generally true of me, please speak up! I welcome opportunities
to better myself.
Regards,
Michael Dickey
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