RE: META: Dishonest debate (was "cluster bombs")

From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Sun Jun 15 2003 - 14:22:25 MDT

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    Spudboy100@aol.com wrote,
    > Harvey Newstrom asked:
    > > <<On a personal note: You probably think I am anti-George
    > > because of my frequent liberal-leaning rants. I am not sure
    > > that I have ever felt the need to oppose bin-Laden in this
    > > group. It never seemed to come up or be disputed among us.
    > > Do you therefore believe I am a bin-Laden supporter?

    > For example, if your are indifferent on Bin Laden, or a supporter,
    > or sympathize with his cause, that will make a difference on how
    > I view your attitude on other matters. Furthermore, anyone who
    > was neutral on Osama, or favorable towards his kith and kin,
    > are people who, by definition, are mine enemy.

    This is that binary thinking again. There are a lot of shades between
    disinterest and neutrality and support! I am against Osama. But I don't
    see much I can do about it. Ranting on the Extropians list doesn't seem
    useful. It is outrageous and slanderous for you to therefore label me an
    enemy of the state and treat me as such. People on this list have been
    accused of being communists, anti-American, traitors, terrorists, enemy
    combatants, etc., simply because they don't agree with some aggressive
    posters. These are serious charges, some of which carry the death penalty.

    You really don't distinguish me from enemy terrorists then? I find this
    outrageous, insulting, and pretty scary. I find it hard to believe that you
    refuse to acknowledge any levels of difference between some people on this
    list and enemy terrorists. I don't know how to prove I'm not the enemy, or
    for that matter, I have no logical explanation why you haven't called the
    government to turn me in. Maybe you already have.

    --
    Harvey Newstrom, CISM, CISSP, IAM, IBMCP, GSEC
    Certified InfoSec Manager, Certified IS Security Pro, NSA-certified
    InfoSec Assessor, IBM-certified Security Consultant, SANS-cert GSEC
    <HarveyNewstrom.com> <Newstaff.com>
    


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