Re: How best to spend US$200 billion?

From: Karen Rand Smigrodzki (karen@smigrodzki.org)
Date: Sat Jun 14 2003 - 13:32:51 MDT

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    The question of the right to secede has been answered in Constitutional law
    since 1869 in which the US Supreme Court held that attempts to secede from
    the Union are unconstitutional; ratification of the Constitution was held to
    be a waiver of the right to secede.

    In regard to what Robert Bradbury mentioned:

    Article 72, Chapter 8 of the USSR Constitution of October 7, 1977, Novosti
    Press Agency Publishing House, Moscow (1977).

    Article 72: "Each Union Republic shall retain the right freely to secede
    from the USSR."

    The Soviet Socialist Republics which did secede from the USSR upon its
    disintegration are: Ukraine, Latvia, Lithunia, Estonia, Azerbaijan, Moldava,
    Kazakhstan, Georgia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Krygyzstan, Armenia, Belarus,
    Uzbekistan.

    Karen

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Robert J. Bradbury" <bradbury@aeiveos.com>
    To: <extropians@extropy.org>
    Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:08 AM
    Subject: RE: How best to spend US$200 billion? RE: `twisted ethics prevalent
    onthe extropy board'

    >
    > On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Paul Grant wrote:
    >
    > > You mean like the US federal government chose not to acknowledge
    > > the southern states right to succede? How is that any different?
    >
    > Now this raises an interesting question in my mind. Does anyone
    > know if there is a "proper" process for U.S. states to succede?
    > Or did this just get overlooked in the process of writing the
    > constitution? I.e. you can join, but you cannot leave.
    > If the U.S. constitution does not have a "leaving" process,
    > are there any countries that do? The only examples I can
    > think of (where splits were peacefully agreed upon) are
    > Czechoslovakia and perhaps some of the autonomous regions
    > in the former USSR.
    >
    > Robert
    >
    >

    Karen Rand Smigrodzki

    All truth passes through three stages.
    First, it is ridiculed.
    Second, it is violently opposed.
    Third, it is accepted as being self-
    evident.
                   -Arthur Schopenhauer

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