RE: Suns considered harmful (was: Pluto)

From: Spike (spike66@attbi.com)
Date: Sun May 25 2003 - 12:01:16 MDT

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    Robert J. Bradbury:

    >Regarding your proposed stellar management/disassembly processes,
    >I agree that the ideas would be useful -- but can the physicists
    >manange to pull the rabbit out of the hat? Yep, we can slow light
    down.
    >But that doesn't imply that we can negate gravity or the processes
    >it drives.

    spike:

    No rabbits or hats. Use ordinary physics as we know it with
    some imaginative engineering, starting with your own concept
    of an Mbrain made up of nodes with reflective surfaces. We
    could concentrate the sun's output onto a small region of the
    sun's surface. (You DID burn stuff with your mother's makeup
    mirror as a kid, right? If not, you were the only kid to have
    never done this. That being said, it is still not too late to
    have a misspent childhood.)

    That superheated region of the sun gets hot enough that many
    of the atoms achieve escape velocity from the sun's surface.
    The resulting expanding blob of material is then differentially
    heated by the reflecting MBrain nodes, in such a way as to
    herd the material into a solar-orbiting subcritical blob of
    hot hydrogen, which loses much of its heat via radiation
    very quickly (a few million years or less). The hydrogen
    is then available for chemical reaction with the available
    heavier elements or for controlled fusion into heavier elements.

    >I simply prefer some reasonably concrete evidence before I'm sold.

    Evidence schmevidence. An ounce of imagination is worth a pound
    of evidence. Robert you have tons of that.

    Humans are apparently the first emergent sentience here in
    this galaxy. In principle, the first sentience in any galaxy
    will be puzzled as to why it is alone. If there were other
    intelligences in this galaxy, I am at a loss to explain why
    they aren't here by now, as well as everywhere else. Perhaps
    we do not yet recognize ETI because we do not know what it
    looks like.

    Do let us mercifully spare the next emergent ETI this puzzle by
    getting to its star and being there waiting for it to emerge.

    We would subsequently devour it, of course. But at least it would
    spared the excruciating uncertainty about why it was not being
    devoured, as humans are currently doing.

    spike



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