From: Robert J. Bradbury (bradbury@aeiveos.com)
Date: Sun May 25 2003 - 01:42:11 MDT
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Eliezer S. Yudkowsky wrote:
> Either I've got false memories or you've got a gap. I recall discussing
> this with you, albeit briefly. Humans being what they are, we'll never
> know. Probably the blue people changed it. You remember the blue people,
> right?
Yep, I distinctly recall the blue people because I thought your
interpretation might not have included the brief discussion we
had on the E-list about them (Perhaps a year ago, we had
several emails exchanged about where the idea originated, I
think I had Googled and came up with a Twilight Zone episode
but Damien may have come up with the actual story from which
it was derived.) I recall being somewhat puzzled regarding
whether you might have read those emails and/or were simply
finding the idea appealing from a novelty standpoint.
So I recall the blue people discussion reasonably well.
The MBrain discussions may include a mental gap on my part
(I've been thinking about MBrains for so long that conversations
with respect to them don't have any novelty value. So I may
discard the information with the same ease that you would
discard comments about AIs that are inherently obvious to you.)
> Clearly what the world needs is a more sophisticated Fun Theory.
I agree with this (and the subsequent analysis). The real pain
this is going to get into is that most of what is considered "fun"
happens to be related to pre-programmed instincts that are
involved in either survival or reproduction. Once you remove
those drives/instincts/etc. there is going to have to be a lot
of rewriting of the "code" that needs to be done with respect to
precisely what "Fun" is.
Regarding your proposed stellar management/disassembly processes,
I agree that the ideas would be useful -- but can the physicists
manange to pull the rabbit out of the hat? Yep, we can slow light down.
But that doesn't imply that we can negate gravity or the processes
it drives.
I simply prefer some reasonably concrete evidence before I'm sold.
Robert
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