Re: The mistake of agriculture (was: evolution and diet)

From: Anders Sandberg (asa@nada.kth.se)
Date: Sat May 24 2003 - 17:40:00 MDT

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    On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 03:22:00PM -0400, gts wrote:
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    > Most importantly, and most obviously in my view, we need to find a way to
    > solve the problem of overpopulation, a problem which became real as a result
    > of the agricultural revolution. This is a serious problem we face at least
    > until such time as we find a way to colonize other planets. I would rather
    > see 6 billion healthy educated prosperous humans on Earth than 50 billion
    > impoverished humans scrambling desperately for their share of limited
    > resources.

    Not that one again. You are worrying about an obsolete disaster. The
    idea of a "population bomb" was very popular in the middle 20th century,
    based on the observed exponential growth of populations. But that is
    just the first knee of the demographic transition (caused by decreases
    in mortality); as societies get wealthier they slow down reproduction.
    This occured first in the West and is now occuring worldwide. The latest
    UN demographic prognosis suggests a levelling off at 8-10 billion people
    in mid century, and later revisions all seem to lower the numbers. Other
    studies point in the same direction, and we are already seeing serious
    problems with beginning population decrease in affluent parts of the
    world (not to mention the disasters of Africa).

    Today you will not find overpopulation on the agenda in international
    aid but rather poverty. It is the real issue: when people are poor they
    cannot buy food and hence will have to rely on low-tech, inefficient
    food production methods they cannot improve. Similarly for health and
    many other issues. 8-10 billion people is nothing to sneeze at, and will
    cause some tricky problems. But these problems are surmountable since
    people themselves are the ultimate resource (as Julian Simon pointed
    out): they have brainpower, they can work, they are interested in making
    the world better for them and their kin and hence act as a huge
    transforming force. If we need more resources we can make better use of
    those we have or find new ones. When I was a kid someone told me that
    the Chinese would never be able to build a phone system because of the
    immense amount of copper needed, but by replacing copper telephone lines
    with fiber optics and wireless they are doing fine. But this process
    requires that people have enough economic leeway/freedom to develop new
    technologies, act as entrepreneurs and choose between alternatives.

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