From: Samantha (samantha@objectent.com)
Date: Mon May 19 2003 - 02:15:30 MDT
On Wednesday 14 May 2003 09:14 am, matus@matus1976.com wrote:
>
> "She was busy insisting that something [our involvment] was
> senselss thus lended sanction to those who chose to ignore it as
> something else [colonial expansionism of the US, a revolution in
> vietnam, all for tin/oil, etc] instead of doing very much about it.
> The result, of course not limited to her, was many millions of
> needless deaths..." and "She wrote what he wrote despite the
> evidence [to the contrary]...I hold supposed intellectuals who
> twist the truth responsible for the consequences of being
> believed."
>
Nope, doesn't wash. Nice try.
> And here you say nearly exactly that
>
> I was rooting for the end
>
> > of our senseless and murderous involvment in a pseudo-war we
> > should never have entered.
It was precisely that and I did root for its end. So what? I had no
great effect on what happened after we pulled out. Nothing I or
others like me said was likely to have made a lot of difference
except where US involvment actually made the problem much worse in
the region as in our support of the Khmer Rouge.
>
> Now clearly, by your own criteria, promoting something that leads
> to the death of people means you must bare some of the blame for
> those deaths.
>
Nope, that is a poor characterization. Unlike Mr. Fumento I did not
promote myself as any sort of expert. One who promotes themselves
as an expert and adviser on a problem does have greater
responsibility. I will grant however that it was wrong of me to
personally hold him responsible for millions of deaths. Instead I
simply hold him as an undependable, irresponsible and amoral
opportunist posturing as an expert. Such people do cause great harm.
I
> I certainly take issue with the accuracy of your summation of
> Fumento's points, so perhaps you take issue with the accuracy of
> some of my points, thus clearing you of any blame for the millions
> of deaths in Indochina. I would like to know which points you
> contest.
>
I won't wate my time on such. That war is over and done with and I
have *much* better things to do than rehash it with you.
-s
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