Objective Media?: was More enthusiasm than news in Fox's coverage of war

From: Devon White (devon@thegreatwork.com)
Date: Tue May 13 2003 - 23:24:46 MDT

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    Lee Corbin wrote:

    >>What I hate is people pretending they're objective, when they're not.

    We agree on this. To me, this is one of the most important portions of this
    discussion.
    Subjective experience masquerading as objective "reality."

    As other threads on this list indicate, information is
    obviously passed through the filters of the network and/or the network
    representative and
    as such take on those entities particular biases
    .
    It seems much more respectful to viewers to have something like E-prime*
    used in
    reporting news- although i think this would be a little too combersome
    especially with the
    attention span that i assume of most network viewers.

    In any case, i think it would behoove our intelligence as a culture if
    reporters and talk show hosts
    would say things like, "in my opinion" etc . . . and consistently remind the
    viewer that this is the
    subjective experience of the reporter (where appropriate) and would cite
    sources when it is
    not their opinion but the "facts" as interpreted or reported by someone
    else.

    I find it unfortunate that relativistic and quantum logic has not reached
    the vernacular yet.
    It seems to me that the endless treatment of "reality" as some block-like,
    objective entity
    as opposed to what seems to me the more accurate description of "reality" as
    a subective
    and verb-like experience causes more stupidity and "bad-thinking" than
    almost any other
    form of brainwashing out there.

    I think that the majority of Americans (people less interested in the rigor
    of intellect and logic
    of a group like this as well as less inclined or able to analyze the details
    and structure of
    arguments being presented to them) are consistently tricked, duped,
    programmed - by a
    language that denies or regretfully forgets the major discoveries made by
    physicists in the 1920's
    and anthropologists ever since. Namely, that there are multiple
    interpretations of every situation,
    i.e. light seem like a wave if we test it like this and a particle if we do
    it like this.
    i.e. peace loving hippies or dirty, jobless, commies
    i.e. "Jimmy Carter takes a cheap shot at president Bush!" or "Jimmy Carter,
    Tellin' it like it is."
    etc . . .

    Though i don't expect O'Reilly to discuss the implications of Schroedinger's
    Cat or Godel's Proof
    with his guests, i think a little respect by all of the talk show hosts and
    news reporters for the intelligence
    (latent as it may be in some cases) of the people would do us all a lot of
    good.
    Maybe general semantics and a course of logic should be included in
    journalism schools.

    Seems to me that a little relativity and self-reflexivity could go a long
    way in making people more aware and in
    stopping the stupidity inherent in the presupposition that there is a
    "right" opinion as opposed to a more or less
    accurate or pragmatic opinion.

    *(See http://www.generalsemantics.org/Articles/E-Prime_intro.htm and
    http://www.angelfire.com/nd/danscorpio/ep2.html for basic understanding of
    E-prime)

    -=devon=-



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