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From: Terry W. Colvin (fortean1@mindspring.com)
Date: Thu May 08 2003 - 21:12:01 MDT

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    Monday, 25 February, 2002, 00:09 GMT
    Sceptics denounce climate science 'lie'
    By Alex KirbyBBC News Online environment correspondent . A group of
    scientists in the US and the UK says the accepted wisdom on
    climate change remains unproved.
    They say rising greenhouse gas emissions may not be the main factor in
    global warming.
    They argue that temperature rise projections this century are "unknown and
    unknowable".They claim it is "a media myth" to suppose that only a few
    scientists share
    their scepticism.
    The scientists, a group convened by the American George C. Marshall
    Institute, first published their report in the US.
    'Political conclusions' It has been republished in the UK by the European
    Science and Environment
    Forum (Esef), entitled Climate Science and Policy: Making the Connection.
    Esef says it is "the result of an extensive review by a distinguished group
    of scientists and public policy experts of the science behind recent
    findings of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
    (IPCC)".<BR>
    The US group included a former CIA director and defence secretary,
    JamesSchlesinger, and Richard Lindzen, professor of meteorology at
    Massachusetts
    Institute of Technology.
    The report says the IPCC's conclusions "have become politicised and fail to
    convey the underlying uncertainties that are important in policy
    considerations."
    Its detailed criticisms of the IPCC include:
    * projections of climate change based on models and assumptions which "are
    not only unknown, but unknowable within ranges relevant for policy-making"
    * models which "do not adequately characterise clouds, water vapour,
    aerosols, ocean currents and solar effects"
    * a failure "to reproduce the difference in trends between the lower
    troposphere and surface temperatures over the past 20 years".
    The authors conclude: "The IPCC simulation of surface temperature appears to
    be little more than a fortuitous bit of curve-fitting rather than any
    genuine demonstration of human influence on global climate."
    Accused of lying
    Philip Stott, emeritus professor of biogeography in the University of
    London, is a prominent British climate sceptic.<BR>
    He said: "The authors challenge the key contradiction at the heart of the
    Kyoto Protocol, the global climate agreement - that climate is one of the
    most complex systems known, yet that we can manage it by trying to control a
    small set of factors, namely greenhouse gas emissions. Scientifically, this
    is not mere uncertainty: it is a lie."
    Professor Stott told BBC News Online: "The problem with a chaotic coupled
    non-linear system as complex as climate is that you can no more predict
    successfully the outcome of doing something as of not doing something. Kyoto
    will not halt climate change.
    Eileen Claussen, president of the Pew Center on Global Climate Change, used
    to work at the State Department and helped to shape US climate policy.
    Heavyweight backing
    She told BBC News Online: "This report dismisses the findings of the IPCC as
    alarmist, yet they are widely accepted as representative of the current
    state of scientific knowledge.
    "A panel of the US's own National Academy of Sciences (which included
    Richard Lindzen) expressed general agreement with the IPCC's finding that
    warming is occurring, and that it is at least partly caused by humans.
    "Uncertainty cuts both ways. Some of the IPCC's scenarios have been
    criticized as unduly pessimistic, others as unduly optimistic.
    "What is important is that they reflect a balance of reasonable futures, and
    that the scientific findings should be based on the peer-reviewed
    literature. The IPCC has been able to accomplish exactly that.
    "And Kyoto was only intended to be a first step in a long journey."

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