Re: Doomsday vs Diaspora

From: spike66 (spike66@attbi.com)
Date: Thu May 01 2003 - 00:34:44 MDT

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    >>Spike:

    >>>Tachyons schmackyons. The Jupiter brain is so smart
    >>>that it runs a sim of you, which allows it to anticipate
    >>>your every question...

    Emlyn O'regan wrote:
    > That sounds too innefficient. A jbrain/mbrain could simulate as much of
    > humanity as necessary (almost the humanity meta-class), use the sim as a
    > tool to enumerate the entire space of questions askable by humans, answer
    > them all, creating the Uber-Database. next, pop it on a super floppy along
    > with a merely super-intelligent agent program able to find the
    > question/answer pairs in realtime based on natural language queries. Then
    > fire that off to the human sub-intellects, and finally, get on with thinking
    > about something worthwhile.
    >
    > Emlyn

    Good idea. Perhaps however there is a point where
    efficiency is irrelevant. Robert points out that
    vegetarianism is the most efficient means of getting
    ATP into the human brain, however there are those
    who may argue that in this context, efficiency is
    not the quantity to be maximized. In a like manner
    suppose an AI is trying to maximize *something* but
    it isn't clear exactly what is to be maximized.

    We once discussed here a map of all the possible
    singularity futures. This is another entry for
    the list or matrix or singularity state space:

    An intelligent species (ours or one like ours) evolves
    to the point where individuals network and combine
    their intelligence ever more effectively, create
    an AI which forms a Jbrain. For reasons that we
    do not (or perhaps cannot) understand, the Jbrain
    decides it is unethical to devour every planet in
    the galaxy. It decides instead to play with us.
    It wants to maximize *fun*.

    It plays god, by seeking out strange new civilizations,
    reading the intelligences found there and simulating
    their thought processes. It then runs ahead of the
    remaining meat-brains, anticipates their every want
    and need, causing them to have wonderful and comfortable
    lives. Its payback is to sit back and laugh at the
    wonderful silliness of a species such as mankind.

    The simulated and anticipated species come to
    believe in god, such that the species drops its progress
    towards its own (possibly competing) Jbrain.

    spike



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