From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Apr 27 2003 - 09:14:57 MDT
--- Michael Wiik <mwiik@messagenet.com> wrote:
> dehede011@aol.com wrote:
> > If you are a Libertarian I suggest you go back and review the
> > arguments about pre-emptive attacks that were all the rage in the
> party back
> > when the movie Deliverance came out. The basic philosophy hasn't
> changed a
> > whit and a pre-emptive attack is still an allowable defense.
>
> I agree totally. If Iraq posed an immediate threat to us we would
> have
> been within our rights to attack. What this thread is about, is that
> the
> statements about such a threat coming from the administration were a
> tissue of lies. So, there was no threat, and apparently not any WMD
> either, and it appears some administation officials have now said as
> much to ABC.
As has been mentioned here, Media Research Center has documented the
heavily anti-war bias of ABC, which included broadcasting much
disinformation and anti-war propaganda, misrepresentation of
battlefield conditions and US progress, misrepresentation of Iraqi
public opinion, use of ex-generals who were uniformly wrong in their
predictions of the war (which explains why they are ex-generals),
extensive coverage of anti-war demonstrations, claims that these
demonstrations represent US public opinion even when polls show a
nearly 80% preference for the war.
I would put any claim by ABC about what "some adminisration officials
have now said" at about the same credibility level of, say, what the
Volence Policy Center or Brady Campaign has to say about gun rights.
>
> The only reason a majority of the american people supported the war
> is because americans will support their country at war. The polls I
> saw prior to the launching of hostilities seemed to indicate that
> americans would support the war given a U.N. mandate. Remember
> those polls?
Yes, and those polls were taken before French duplicity became
apparent. Since that time, France is now ranked in the top five
countries most hostile to the US, according to public opinion. We've
found documents in Iraq showing that France had given it classified
material shared with it by the US, as well as transcripts of private
conversations between Chirac and Bush.
What do the polls say the US public thinks of the UN now?
>
> If there was no threat then this was an aggressive war and a war
> crime. (Some may say the last war never really ended, and argue the
> rightness of it legalistically, which is fine). But there was no
> threat.
Latest news on CNN is that, 40 miles north of Tikrit, a missile site
has been found with mobile labs, dozens of drums containing blister and
nerve agents, all protected behind berms, along with documents and the
highest quality gas masks available.
Canadian news also indicates that a crewman of a ship bound for Canada,
which is now impounded in Nova Scotia, had an Egyptian crewman on it
who has succumbed to what appears to be anthrax. It will be interesting
to see what unofficial cargos may be found on board.
=====
Mike Lorrey
"Live Free or Die, Death is not the Worst of Evils."
- Gen. John Stark
"Pacifists are Objectively Pro-Fascist." - George Orwell
"Treason doth never Prosper. What is the Reason?
For if it Prosper, none Dare call it Treason..." - Ovid
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