Re: specific amino acid restriction does the same thing as calorie restriction?

From: gts (gts_2000@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Apr 20 2003 - 01:59:45 MDT

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    "Robert J. Bradbury" <bradbury@aeiveos.com> wrote:

    > (Harvey or gts or someone may want to confirm this).

    I haven't time to follow this thread closely (I'm
    breaking many social graces even to be online at all
    during this Easter weekend during which I am not at my
    own home) but I see above that I have been mentioned,
    so I thought I should scratch up a quick reply.

    I scanned the messages here thus far and I'm a little
    confused. The original message by Reason pointed to an
    article at www.longevitymeme.org, which pointed in
    turn to an article at LEF, which comes from
    NewsRx.com. That article is about the possible
    life-extension benefits of restricting one or more of
    three specific amino acids. The title of the LEF
    article itself is "A methionine restricted diet may
    cause prolongation of life." The two other amino acids
    mentioned as AA-restriction candidates are cysteine
    and tryptophan.

    Am I looking at the right article? Perhaps not.
    However if I am looking at the right article then why
    is no one here discussing the properties of
    methionine, cysteine or tryptophan?

    I have often argued (not here at ExI, but rather on
    other discussion lists devoted entirely to health and
    longevity, some which I manage or moderate) that any
    amino acid (AA) considered individually should be
    considered as something near to a pharmaceutical drug.
    The FDA made a similar argument in its attempt some
    years ago to regulate them, and while I oppose the
    regulation of AA's I don't think the FDA was too far
    off the mark in its arguments. I am inclined to give
    some validity to the FDA's argument because the body
    expects to receive AA's as part of complete protein
    molecules in the company of other AA's and because
    each AA has unique activities in the body. It's a bit
    of a stretch to say that individual AA's are "natural
    foods," given that no animal can consume individual
    AA's in a natural diet. It follows also then that a
    major restriction in the diet of a single AA might
    also have near-drug-like effects, and that the
    individual properties of the restricted AA could be
    very important.

    But I see discussion here only about the general
    restriction of amino acids -- nothing about what might
    happen if we restrict one or more of the specific AA's
    mentioned in the LEF article. (Again, am I looking at
    the wrong article?)

    Concerning the three AA's mentioned:

    Cysteine can act as a neurotoxin ("excitotoxin" to be
    more precise), at least when present in large
    quantities. This raises the possibility that
    restricting cysteine might help to preserve the
    nervous system and thus help to extend life-span.

    Methionine is one of only a few sulphur containing
    AA's. Perhaps restricting intake of sulphur-containing
    AA's has relevance to life-extension.

    Tryptophan is a precursor to 5-HTP, which is in turn a
    precursor to serotonin in the brain. It tends to be a
    mild sleep-agent and can help fight depression. Some
    studies show that depletion of tryptophan can trigger
    psychological depression, and perhaps this type of
    depression also works in physical ways similar to
    calorie restriction.

    These are only thoughts off the top of my head, but
    they are the kinds of ideas I would be investigating
    more closely if I had time right now to investigate
    this subject in detail.

    Hope this helps.

    -gts



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