RE: FITNESS: Diet and Exercise

From: gts (gts_2000@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Apr 17 2003 - 11:19:23 MDT

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    Samantha Atkins wrote:

    >> No greens or beans are higher sources of protein than lean meats.
    >> Also beans are not properly defined as agricultural products.
    >> Agricultural products are grains like wheat and corn.
    >
    > The first statement is false.

    Is it? I'm not aware of any "greens or beans" that contain more protein
    than, say, a slice of turkey breast, which contains 94% protein.

    > Other vegetables are not
    > agricultural products? How are you limiting "agricultural"?

    Normally agricultural products are defined as grains, e.g., wheat, corn,
    rice, etc. You can broaden the definition if you please to include
    non-grains like beans and legumes, but doing so only changes the
    definitions, not the arguments.

    >>> Doesn't it give you pause that you are lumping both "nutrients" as a
    >>> whole and "agricultural products" as a whole?
    >>
    >> No.
    >
    > It should. Your statement is quite broad without qualifiers.
    > Please cite the sources that show your statements to be justified.

    Try perusing the USDA nutrient database at
    http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl

    Compare the nutrients in whole wheat bread to, for example, spinach. Whole
    wheat bread is almost 50% carbohydrate, which as I've explained here is
    broken down into simple sugar before it is absorbed by the gastrointestinal
    tract. Spinach on the other hand is less than 4% carbohydrate. It contains
    the nutrients found in wheat bread and a whole lot more.

    As I've stated here, practically any vegetable is more nutrient-dense than
    any agricultural product. If you find an exception then it's the exception
    that proves the rule.

    Relative to other foods, agricultural products are cheap sources of calories
    useful for feeding live-stock and fighting famine, but otherwise they have
    few redeeming qualities. Popeye ate spinach, not bread. :)

    -gts



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