Re: If Magick Exists (was RE: Ideological blinders)

From: Charles Hixson (charleshixsn@earthlink.net)
Date: Wed Apr 02 2003 - 16:04:06 MST

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    Eliezer S. Yudkowsky wrote:

    > ...
    > Given the previous statistical correlation of such subjective
    > experiences to their corresponding realities, interpreting an apparent
    > miracle as a hallucination makes sense, unless God provides a
    > consilient explanation instead of just random miracles. Obviously
    > since I *don't* expect to hallucinate, ordinarily, ...

    But perhaps you should expect just that. Much appearant sensory
    evidence is actually internally generated fill. The classic
    demonstration is the psychology class where a man is stabbed by someone
    who rushes in, stabs the person, they collapse, and then he rushes out.
    Few people notice that what he was stabbed with was a banana. They
    disagree on the details of the knife, but that's what they saw.

    Given that experiment, it seems likely to me that much of our "reality"
    is interpolation, but that we can't easily tell the difference.

    That said, I don't consider a hallucination supplied by a "God" to be
    any proof. I've encountered a few, and decided that they were
    projections from activated archetypes (I was going through a heavily
    Jungian period). Again, these are difficult to notice as what they
    are. A starlet isn't called a "love goddess" by mistake. When people
    see her, they are projecting an emotional hallucination from the
    internal "love goddess" onto the image that they see. There are other
    gods, and they act the same way. I don't believe in the messages that
    they provide... their hit rate seems pretty low. But they exist. I
    suspect that in the environment for which we evolved they were much more
    accurate. Think of them as one of the necessary preconditions for
    language coming into existence. But when you encounter them, you can't
    be rational (except partially). Rational judgements need to be
    postponed to appreciate the numinosity of the event. THEN you can
    rationally analyze it. But be cautious, for some of the emotional
    arguments can be quite convincing.

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