From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Wed Apr 02 2003 - 15:59:43 MST
Hubert writes
> Thanx Emlyn for this revealing quote of Hermann Goering:
>
> > " [...] the people can
> > always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you
> > have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the
> > pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater
> > danger. It works the same way in any country."
Goering was not thinking of a country in which there was
freedom of expression. Why should he? He had never known
one, and from his perspective, the democracies were "has
beens" proven not to work (e.g. the Weimar republic). Quite
the contrary, he saw how successful were the regimes of Hitler
and Stalin.
> Dirty old man, today he could easily take over the position
> of the resigned Richard Perle.
You'll have to enumerate the sins of Richard Perle to
have even a chance of making this charge stick. Goering
was a Nazi, a war criminal, and acceded to plans for
genocide. So what has one Richard Perle done lately
to compare with that? Your exaggeration is completely
symptomatic of how you are taking current events.
> But Schweinebacke Goering forgot to mention one important thing.
> Brainwashing must also function on the homecoming level, where brides and
> women and mothers burst into tears but do not accuse the war commander in
> chief of having abused their sons but repeat the standardized clichés of
> praising their sons as heroes who have defended American borders some 8000
> miles away,
You cannot say that the American people have been brainwashed.
Of all the nerve. What if I were to claim that the citizenry
of your country were the ones brainwashed? Obviously, you
have no evidence whatsoever for your extreme claims.
Moreover, it would even be incorrect to say that Hitler
brainwashed the Germans. They read Mein Kampf. They knew
what they were getting. (Yes, it's true that they were not
aware of the death camps, and it's probably true that Hitler
could not have gotten away with that in peace time.) The
policies that Hitler formulated in the 1930's were enthusiastically
endorsed by the German people.
> put the blame for the deaths of their beloved on Saddam,
> accentuate the necessity of unconditional support of the
> troops, pray for them, be proud of America and ... of
> course: ask God to bless America, some of them even
> thinking of America as being female.
If that's how the people feel, and you have a problem with
that, then blame the people, not their so-called "brainwashers".
I suspect that any nation that adopts policies not in line
with those advocated by one Hubert Mania you will deem to
have arisen through brainwashing, or some other kind of
unnatural development.
> This is the true embarrassing and disgusting climax of
> brainwashing. Hermann Goering would have been proud of
> achieving this peak of abusing his folks himself.
Besides, aren't you thinking of Goebbels? He was the
minister of propaganda, you know. Goering was only
a mass murderer and Luftwaffe general.
Please explain how a country with total freedom of the
press, almost total even in wartime, can be so "abused"
by its leaders as you claim. If so, then how did Richard
Nixon ever fall from power? Why is it that so many U.S.
government policies become unpopular among the people?
Or do you only invoke the claim of "brainwashing" selectively,
when it suits your purposes?
Lee
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