RE: Tribalism (was: Tragedies of war (was WAR: Apparently the internet...))

From: matus (matus@snet.net)
Date: Thu Mar 27 2003 - 09:40:21 MST

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    "Four hundred years ago, Francis Bacon could see clearly enough the need to
    move beyond idolatry of tribes. He suggested we think of ourselves as
    citizens of the Human Republic. Yet that notion has practically disappeared.
    That meme cannot hang on amidst the near universal colonization of human
    minds by nationalisms."

    Lets be fair here and compare *types* of tribalism. When some nationalisms
    include such memes as murder, oppression, and torture of political
    dissenters, and are opposed idealogically to human progress and the general
    increase in the standard of living, embrace genocide, are west hating
    racists and want nothing less the destruction of freedom, progress, and
    modern civlization, it is easy to understand why one should prefer
    *tribalism* that embraces the value of human life, values free speech,
    progress, rule of law, representative governments, and objectively makes the
    lives better of all its tribal members.

    Yes, the US and the democratic market based western nations are
    *tribalistic* in that they value there way of life over the alternative
    presented by fanatical islam and murderous tyrant dictators of oppression,
    enslavement, and murder.

    To simply discount all forms of *tribalism* because they are tribalism is
    absurd, and ignores the fact that many are actually a heck of a lot worse
    than other forms. I invite you to imagine a *world* where the strongest
    power in the world is any one of the following

    despotic communist dictators
    murderous oppressive theocracy
    Saddam Hussain

    And then compare that world to the one in which the strongest world power is
    a democratic constitutional republic which embraces (albiet tribalistically)
    such values as free speech, rule of law, and individual civil liberties, in
    *at least* orders of magnitude greater levels than any of the other systems
    out there.

    In short, lets bring everybody up to a better form of tribalism, and then
    worry about erradicating tribalism all together.

    Michael Dickey



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