Re: (WAR) Proud 'n' Pray Patriotism (Was: Apparently the internet...)

From: Robert J. Bradbury (bradbury@aeiveos.com)
Date: Thu Mar 27 2003 - 08:01:49 MST

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    On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, hubert mania wrote:

    > I already told you: they hate Saddam and want him removed too, but by
    > peaceful disarmament.

    Hubert, I have not been following this conversation, so I may be stepping
    in a bit ill-informed. But with respect to the statement above -- it *ain't*
    going to happen.

    I'll cite two pieces of information from a recent PBS special about Saddam.
    (a) His personal library is filled with books on the life and philosophy of
        one Josef Stalin.
    (b) He is responsible for the deaths of ~190,000 people (non-war related)
        during his rule [this is at the low end of estimates I have seen].

    Let us top this off with a NY Times article today of individuals having
    to choose between fighting or being shot:
      March 27, 2003
      Iraqi Soldiers Say It Was Fight or Die
      By DEXTER FILKINS
      http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/27/international/worldspecial/27AMBU.html?pagewanted=print

    The man rose to power as a hit-man within his party. He does *not* understand
    the concept of "peaceful disarmament". Unfortunately he has spread his perspective
    to hundreds if not thousands of other Iraqi's in his "regime".

    It is a really sad situation -- but one has to face the fact that "humanity"
    can get cancer and one has to deal with the really hard situations of how
    one excises it.

    The fundamental problem with the German and French positions is this. If Saddam
    is responsible for murdering several hundred thousand people over the last couple
    of decades *what* precisely is to prevent him from murdering another several hundred
    thousand people over the next couple of decades? There is an old chinese saying
    (I believe) along the lines of "If you do not change the direction in which you
    are going, you are likely to end up where you are headed".

    One only has to read the history of Russia for much of the 20th century to
    understand (in bloody red detail) what that looks like.

    Robert



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