RE: [POLITICS] Re: Libertarian theory breaking down (was Re: [WAR]: Does

From: matus (matus@snet.net)
Date: Sun Mar 23 2003 - 15:31:39 MST

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    Samantha said
    "I thought it was our goal to create a world or pockets therein of maximum
    extropy. I don't see how those pockets can be created without maximizing
    freedom and individual rights."

    Mike Lorrey replied
    "Neither can I, but I didn't expect Samantha to say this."

    Nor did I, but I must emphasize that she said "pockets" not necessarily the
    whole world being extropic. One must wonder to what other areas Samantha
    applies this concept of only parts of a system being extropic. If we were
    to apply this thinking of hers to questions such as freedom and rights, we
    might understand why should would prefer the Iraqi people remain oppressed
    and un-free, and similiarly supported the enslavement and murder of millions
    of Indochinese people.

    Perhaps Samantha feels that some parts of a system can only become more
    extropic/free/progressive at the expense of other parts becoming more
    chaotic, oppressive and regressive. Given this context, at least her
    motivations seem internally consistent! After all, the second law of
    thermodynamics dictates as much for closed systems, perhaps Samantha feels
    'freedom' is something that is conserved.

    This is the closest I have come to figuring her out.

    Michael Dickey



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