From: cryofan@mylinuxisp.com
Date: Thu Mar 13 2003 - 07:41:31 MST
someone said:
> >Well, the immigrants, of course. Isn't it a good deal for everyone?
Maybe, maybe not.
Regarding the social security/pensions issues. Let me see, what is the math
on that? If N residents of X western country with a birthrate of Q are taxed
K dollars over their working career of P years, and there is a resulting
pension fund amount has a deficit of -M dollars, and so then to rectify the
situation, we bring in L immigrants with an expected birthrate of Q*(1.Y),
who will work for P-C years (why should they work longer? They are here for
*fewer* years on average, obviously!), then the resulting pension fund
amount is a *deficit* of (-M + O)* (1.D). This is of course an
approximation.....
I am not sure if the immigration policies put forth by the media (via "think
tank" studies funded by low-cost-labor loving corporate lobbies) are correct
or incorrect, but when I see the amount of propaganda being spewed and the
demonization rites being performed upon immigration naysayers, I get very
nervous.
And then there is the cultural issue, and also issues of what possible
attributes may be associated with a race that may immigrate. I am not sure
whether these issues are significant, but when there is so much money
available to cram these policies down the throats of the citizens of western
cultures, I get very suspicious.
It would see to me that a country and its present situation is at least in
some aspect a product of the people and culture that constitutes its
citizenry. Deriving that conclusion should not be rocket science. The well
being of the citizens of a country is not dependent solely on the depth of
its topsoil or the number of its oil wells. It seems to me that the culture
of the people is a major factor in its well being. And large amounts of
immigration from country A to country B would seem to make country B's
culture more like country A's culture. Again, this would seem to be fairly
straighforward.
There are many other aspects of race that are not even being brought into the
public debate. Is anyone here aware of the frictions and effects caused by
different races in public schools? It is huge! IS this being discussed in the
public "debate"?
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