Re: Join the not-knowers, was RE: Giant anti-war demonstration in Melbourne (IRAQ)

From: Rafal Smigrodzki (rafal@smigrodzki.org)
Date: Tue Mar 04 2003 - 15:01:24 MST

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    From: "Samantha Atkins" <samantha@objectent.com>
    To: <extropians@extropy.org>
    Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 1:56 PM
    Subject: Re: Join the not-knowers, was RE: Giant anti-war demonstration in
    Melbourne

    > Russell Blackford wrote:
    > > I'm happy to join the not-knowers. I've been very slightly - only very
    > > slightly - against the war so far. I would not align myself in any way
    > > with the peace marchers, however. If it happens, my final position on it
    > > will depend on the processes that led up to it and the kind of planning
    > > and objectives that it has. I was certainly for the war to get the
    > > Taliban out of Afghanistan (irrespective of whether there has been a
    > > perfect outcome with that).
    > >
    >
    >
    > I am having trouble understanding why you do not already have
    > more than enough information about the processes so far and the
    > stated objectives to cleanly judge whether this call to war is
    > reasonable or not. I do not understand exactly why you group
    > the marchers as a separate entity separate from and clearly not
    > you. The marchers are from all walks of life and all points on
    > the political spectrum. They are united only in believing this
    > war is unjustified.

    ### That is the problem with them - they think they know, where a prudent
    person, concerned about the welfare of both the citizens of the world (in
    the long run) and the welfare of Iraqis (who stand to gain enormously from
    outside intervention), has reasons to doubt either course of action. I think
    I am still slightly, just ever so slightly, against the war (for short-term
    selfish economic reasons, and a worry that this might be the beginning of
    the World Government), but on the other hand, the suffering of innocents now
    and the risk of further nuclear weapon proliferation are almost enough to
    argue for it.

    This is not the clear-cut case of Pearl Harbor (war=good), or Somalia
    intervention (what a stupid idea, now seen in 20/20 hindsight).

    Rafal

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