Re: Oil Economics (was IRAQ sort of) OFF LIST***

From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Feb 24 2003 - 11:33:49 MST

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    --- "Robert J. Bradbury" <bradbury@aeiveos.com> wrote:
    >
    > I think Mike may have said:
    >
    > > To answer your question, the French use breeder reactors to cleanly
    > > dispose of their nuclear waste. We tried to build one here in the
    > US,
    > > but the anti-nukers got it canned because if the nuclear waste
    > problem
    > > was solved, they'd have to get real jobs.
    >
    > I think much of this statment may be inaccurate.
    >
    > My current records (I'll supply the spreadsheet for people who send
    > me offlist requests) suggest that the U.S. and Russian inventories
    > of Highly Enriched Uranium and Plutonium are respectively 645, 1050,
    > 100 and 160 *TONS*.
    >
    > There *isn't* a problem of "fuel" resources.
    >
    > Furthermore, breeder reactors are designed to produce greater amounts
    > of fissionable material, *not* to dispose of nuclear waste.

    I really have to dispute this, Robert. WHile I'm no nuclear scientist,
    my dad did design and build the core of a breeder reactor built in the
    1960's at Hanford for weapons materials production. Breeder reactors
    can either produce OR eliminate nuclear material depending on how you
    tune them.

     
    > Living in the state of Washington, where the Hanford facility
    > and the waste on its premisese is a frequent source of news
    > I can express with reasonable certainty -- if a breeder reactor
    > could dispose of nuclear waste -- we would have one operating
    > in this state.

    You had one there for a while... I can show you pictures of the core
    being assembled if you like, complete with pictures of my dad looking
    like Homer Simpson with sideburns, a lab coat, and clipboard looking
    on.... ;)

    >
    > The French have (largely) solved the problem of a standardized
    > reactor design, well trained people who can operate those
    > reactors and fuel for those reactors.
    >
    > The French have not solved (to my knowledge) the issues
    > of the decommissioning of those reactors or the safe
    > long term storage of the radioactive materials that
    > result from the operation of nuclear reactors. This issue
    > is what has produced the intense Yucca Mountain debate
    > in the U.S.

    Yet where are the French storing their waste? Certainly not the way we
    are right now.

    =====
    Mike Lorrey
    "Live Free or Die, Death is not the Worst of Evils."
                                                         - Gen. John Stark
    "Pacifists are Objectively Pro-Fascist." - George Orwell
    "Treason doth never Prosper. What is the Reason?
    For if it Prosper, none Dare call it Treason..." - Ovid

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