From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Wed Feb 19 2003 - 22:35:04 MST
Michael writes
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-extropians@extropy.org
> Behalf Of Michael M. Butler
>
> France's non-up-shutting correspondents...
>
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2780881.stm
How can Chirac get away with this *within* France? Are
there French readers of this list who can describe what's
happening there? Or does anyone have an account?
Thanks, Lee
> > Chirac invokes 'New Europe' ire
> >
> > Chirac has been widely condemned in the candidate countries
> >
> > French President Jacques Chirac's criticism of the East European EU
> > applicants' support for the US stance on Iraq has generated a wide debate
> > and angry reaction in the press in those countries. The following are quotes
> > from newspapers from across the region.
> >
> > The Czech Republic
> >
> > The French president is without doubt walking on thin ice when he tries to
> > base European foreign policy on the principle of anti-Americanism. His
> > theory does not even have the support of the majority of EU member states.
> > Hospodarske Noviny
> >
> > All Central European nations are used to the interpretations that some
> > countries have more rights than others. They are also used to furious
> > tirades, followed by tanks. If Chirac wants to revive the spirit of Leonid
> > Brezhnev and renew the doctrine of limited sovereignty, which means fewer
> > rights for some countries, it is his own affair.
> > Mlada Fronta Dnes
> >
> > The EU is a realistic kind of club where it's all about political power and
> > pushing through the aims of individual states. And when it gets
> > uncomfortable for EU politicians to take on board new countries, they calmly
> > throw them overboard, for instance over their attitude to the USA.
> > Lidove Noviny
> >
> > Hungary
> >
> > Chirac is probably not alone in his views, even if the politicians of other
> > EU states put things more diplomatically. However, the two camps, split over
> > the Iraq affair, both seek the favours of the central and east-central
> > European states which, owing to their Nato and expected EU membership, have
> > grown in value.
> > Magyar Hirlap
> >
> > Specific eastern European views has now become an unavoidable presence in
> > the set of values of the expanding EU. It was no coincidence that, following
> > the adoption of the joint stance, the French president criticized in
> > unusually sharp language those candidate states which had been urging a
> > firmer EU-US stand on Iraq.
> > Nepszabadsag
> >
> > Latvia
> >
> > All right, Monsieur Chirac. Perhaps we are poor. Perhaps we were not raised
> > properly. We do not know about fine wine and the various directions of
> > avant-garde art. But we do not repay those who have helped us and who
> > continue to help us with ingratitude.
> > Neatkariga Rita Avize
> >
> > Perhaps there are some in Paris who want to be the patriarch of Europe's
> > "family", letting others in the family "knock on the door" humbly. By
> > denying the right of others to hold independent views, however, France runs
> > a risk of being alone with its own view.
> > Diena
> >
> > Lithuania
> >
> > Paris's attempt to ruin EU enlargement may lead to a rift in the EU. But
> > this scenario would be a nightmare even for France itself, which is trying
> > to proclaim itself as the strongest EU power.
> > Lietuvos Rytas
> >
> > It seems France, the nation with old pedagogical traditions, decided to
> > continue educating the European juniors.
> > Verslo Zinios
> >
> > Poland
> >
> > Chirac allowed himself to say things which should not have been said...
> > Poland can make its own sovereign decisions about its views. EU membership
> > must not deprive us of this right. Loyalty towards Paris should not mean
> > subordination. Loyalty brings obligations on both sides.
> > Rzeczopolita
> >
> > Romania
> >
> > French President Jacques Chirac's harsh criticism of Romania and Bulgaria
> > for bad behaviour and recklessness for their support for the USA on Iraq is
> > without precedent... During the Gulf War Romania was criticised for
> > supporting Iraq and it is now criticised for supporting the USA.
> > Adevarul
> >
> > Slovenia
> >
> > Most senior politicians of sovereign states have no right to their own
> > opinion, even if it is even more controversial than the "Vilnius
> > declaration". The "cold shower" was sudden but it did not come completely
> > out of the blue.
> > Delo
> >
> > Slovakia
> >
> > Jacques Chirac's degrading message to the candidate countries can actually
> > be taken as a compliment. The French President admitted defeat in his rage.
> > Suddenly the 15 [EU members] succeeded in resolving within a couple of hours
> > a matter on which they were not able to agree for months. It was the "new
> > Europe" which forced "the old" to overcome itself.
> > Sme
> >
> > Neither Slovakia, nor any other candidate country will enter the EU to keep
> > silent but in order to make their voice be heard more... After enlargement,
> > the EU will be different. Less French or German, less Chirac's. However, not
> > worse for that.
> > Pravda
> >
> > "When [Chirac] reproached the candidate countries for not having discussed
> > their attitudes with the others to a minimal extent at least, he forgot that
> > it was mainly France and Germany who, since the very beginning, have taken a
> > negative stance on a possible use of force against Iraq and on Turkey's
> > request for ... military aid without asking about positions of other
> > countries.
> > Narodna Obroda
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