From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Fri Feb 07 2003 - 02:30:26 MST
Hubert writes
> Lee wrote:
>
> > we must NEVER lose sight for a moment of the
> > eventual goal of saving EVERYONE'S life. We must attain the
> > very highest moral position in all this, which is to understand
> > and accept N.F. Fyodorov's Common Task, that is, if scientifically
> > possible, the resurrection of every person who has ever lived.
> > I fervently pray that Tipler's hypotheses turn out to be correct,
> > that information is never in fact lost, and that through an
> > eventual Omega Point everyone lives forever.
>
> When I read Tipler, I remember I was wondering why on earth he wanted to
> haul back every person who had EVER lived back into life again. From that
> moment on I thought he must be completely nuts. I guess, it's fine to
> *think* about the possibility of doing it in order to make clear how much
> power would be on our hand, once we would slide and shiver into Omega Point.
No, once the cost were to come down, and it is technically feasible,
why not? Besides, it definitely would be the moral thing to do!
> But then, am I really that naive or would that mean I had to sign up for
> taking - let's say - half a dozen resurrected Mongolian warriors who died in
> a tribal skirmish with Western Siberians some 30.000 years ago into my
> apartment and explain them the use of the TV remote control, get enough
> mammoth meat for them to eat and help them getting along with the
> application form for social security?
Quite possibly, Tipler had something more esoteric in mind
than your apartment ;-) but thanks for offering. One
supposes (following another thread on ephemeralization)
that this should all be done strictly in virtual reality,
and that the Siberians would find in their vast steppes
even more to plunder than usual. (Only by and by, I presume,
would they begin to advance along personal evolutionary
paths of self-transformation. That is, you can only ride
around even in Asia for so long raping and pillaging before
it becomes boring, and some of those disco bars on the
horizon start looking interesting.)
> I mean what great effort would it mean to provide a job
> for all the humans who had ever lived?
Well, we don't even provide jobs for all the people we
now have 8^D and they're not too bad off!
> What would you do with Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot?
A more delicate question.
> Gently brain wash them with a love-peace-and-happiness
> neuro linguistic program?
Basically, I would say yes. We could resurrect remorseful
versions of same, who would perhaps understand with super-
human clarity the unhappiness they had created.
> Think about some animal right fighters who make it to
> the Omega Point! Would they stand up for resurrecting
> all primates who had ever lived? Dolphins? This might
> get pretty crowed down here.
Plenty of space in virtual reality. But besides, consider
insects. In the immortal words of Ronald Reagan, if you've
seen one Agabetes acuductus (a rare form of beetle according
to Google), then you've seen 'em all! (Slightly paraphrased.)
It's not like they have much in the way of individual experiences.
So somewhere between primates and bugs, some economy will obtain,
all so that more resources can be devoted to running us and our
true brethren.
Lee
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