Re: Quantum superposition, microtubules & MVT consciousness

From: scerir (scerir@libero.it)
Date: Thu Feb 06 2003 - 10:20:29 MST

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    Steve,
    > someone could tell me why a seeming observation
    > of dual occupation of "space" might not
    > really be a blur caused by dual / persistent
    > occupation of different points in time?

    No.
    But if you read this (below) you can realize how
    difficult is not to establish a morphism between
    QM and 'mind' [ok J.R.M.! I should say 'brain']
    but to test (or confirm) something.

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    Andrei Khrennikov [not a crackpot!]
    'On the cognitive experiments to test
    quantum-like behaviour of mind'
    http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0205092
    We describe cognitive experiments (based on interference of probabilities
    for mental observables) that could verify quantum-like structure of mental
    measurements. In principle, such experiments could be performed in
    psychology, cognitive and social sciences. Recently one of such experiments
    (described in the previous version of the preprint) based on recognition of
    images was performed. It confirms our prediction on quantum-like behaviour
    of mind.

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    Look, in a very general sense you are right.
    There is no other (i.e. classical) physics.
    There is just quantum physics. And quantum
    physics means (mainly) 'superposition', 'interference'
    (different from the usual interference we have
    in strings, branes, etc.), and all that.
    It is already hard to understand how a particle
    (whatever it is) is not 'here' *or* 'there',
    and is not 'here' *and* 'there', either.
    And it is already difficult to understand
    how a quantum event is not 'now' *or* 'then',
    and it is not 'now' *and* 'then', either.
    Actually many are suggesting that quantum events
    can be out of space, out of time, and they live
    in a special, proper world, let us say in some
    actualization, or reification of the
    Hilbert/Fock space, see in example
    http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/quant-ph/0212078
    But this is not new. Something similar
    wrote also Y. Ne'eman many years ago:
    'Can EPR Non-Locality Be Geometrical?'.
    And it is even more difficult to explain
    a superposition in the mesoscopic, or in
    the macro world.



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