From: Max M (maxmcorp@worldonline.dk)
Date: Wed Feb 05 2003 - 03:17:32 MST
Dehede011@aol.com wrote:
> I don't know how big an archive you have or if you can go back and
> reread what has been said for the past two or three months.
> But, my
> impression is that you (plural) are not complaining about there being
> political expression on the Extropy list, you are complaining that when you
> express yourself politically there are those that refute your position. I
> don't know if you agree or not but that is my definite impression of what the
> European contingent is saying.
I don't have the slightest problem with people disagreeing with me. That
gives the best arguments.
But the problem is that americans and europeans discuss things differently.
I wrote a lengthy post about this a few years back, but I cannot find it
in the archives.
But generally the difference is that the US' joins a discussion to win
the argument through the presentation of facts, and the EU's wants to
gain understanding by seing all sides of the argument.
This makes the EU's seem to be whimpy and end leftist to the US', and
the US' seem to be dogmatic and ignorant to the EU's.
It comes from the differences in educational culture. And makes
discussing subjects extremely difficult. Also it makes the differences
seem larger than they really are.
I really don't know what there is to do about it.
But what I really don't understand is that there is a relatively large
group here that practically *only* discuss politics. I frankly cannot
see why they should choose to do it here. There must be more
interresting venues for that.
It seems to me that the extropians list is really two lists. One where
politics are discussed, and one where extropian ideas are discussed. And
rarely does the two groups overlap.
-- hilsen/regards Max M Rasmussen, Denmark http://www.futureport.dk/ Fremtiden, videnskab, skeptiscisme og transhumanisme
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