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Date: Wed Jan 22 2003 - 21:34:19 MST
Thanks for your thread, interesting reading.
However I note the Indonesian and Phillipines archipelagos retain a unitary
government despite separation.
Despite their being enough material to construct ringworlds or Matrioshka
brains or space colonies to a very large extent (if that was the course
adopted) current human "conservative form" reproduction rates would have to
slow down a lot if postmortalism arrives, under a "conservative" analysis of
the possibilities, since any yearly reproduction starts to approach the old
doubling-the-grain on a chessboard scenario.
Under a "conservative Tiplerian Omega Point" scenario solar system
reproduction would be slowed under whatever physical substrate until the
achievement of the Omega Point.
I am interested in what happens in the next billion years in the solar
system as well as the next hundred or thousand.
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Subject: Re:Solar govt in a postmortal world: voting system
> From: "Alex Future Bokov" <alexboko@umich.edu>
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> 1) The whole model seems to tacitly assume that planetary surfaces are
where
> most of the action will be. If so, why? If not, what would be the
necessity
> and feasibility of governing millions of orbital habitats when the natural
> unit of property and governance would be the person or people who own a
given
> orbital?
>
> 2) I refer you to this thread...
>
http://www.extropy.org/bbs/index.php?board=61;action=display;threadid=54105
> ...posted by me, and largely ignored. Probably with good reason,
> since it was so long. Still, it might point the way to a
> workable, property and contract-based alternative to government
> altogether. Btw, I don't claim authorship of that document. The original
> (http://www31.brinkster.com/anarchitect/) was posted by someone who
refuses
> to identify themselves.
>
> 3) Elaborating on the feasibility issue in item 1. I assume that among the
> billions of people inhabiting the solar system there will be a number who
> take issue with this government, or even with having a government at all.
The
> short supply-lines and rapid communication on a planet surface allow for
very
> flexible and granular coercive tactics in dealing with dissenters. How do
you
> coerce dissenters aboard a deep-space orbital? Send in the space marines,
> and wait a couple of years for them to arrive? Wait five or six hours for
> dispatches to arrive from the front? Mobilizing enough force to insure
victory
> would be prohibitive. The cheap alternative would be to simply fling large
> rocks at orbitals, but that amounts to genocide. So here we have it-- a
"Solar
> Government" that's anything more than a voluntary certification authority
> would be facing the choice between tremendous expense and genocide
everytime
> someone decided to seccede.
>
>
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