From: John Grigg (starman2100@lycos.com)
Date: Sat Jan 18 2003 - 13:49:25 MST
The interesting post (below) was on Cryonet regarding the use of non-local forcefields as the key means to reanimate cryonauts. I wonder what knowledgeable listmembers think of the idea.
The Cryonet archives are at:
www.cryonet.org
Yvan might be an interesting addition to the extropian list once he got slapped around a bit over his negative nanotech views. ; ) He can be a pretty stubborn Frenchman.
best wishes,
John
From: Azt28@aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:41:06 EST
Subject: Re: CryoNet #20813
> Where is the evidence to support your contention that nanotechnology will
> never be able to revive anyone, whether from cryostasis or otherwise? You
> do realize that the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence points to
> just the opposite, don't you?
Plain false, you can't extract/destroy/neutralize 10^25 or so toxic
anti-freeze molecules with nano-devices in the sub-micrometer range. Simple
maths, not tensor calculus are against you. Freezing produces disorders at
sub millimeter level, a nanodevice can do nothing for it. That has been well
explained by Thomas Donaldson not so long ago. More I look at it, more
nanotech looks as religion in tech disguise. Sorry I don't buy it.
Even today, technology is advancing at an astounding pace. Thirty or forty
years
> from now, technology will have advanced to the point that we will have
> almost "godlike" abilities as measured by today's standards.
See above: you are in mere faith domain, not science or technology. Outside
some gadgets I see nothing really new in the past 30 years... oh, pardon me,
I forgot our current incapacity to go to the Moon. I see a big regression
,not "god-like" progress.
If you doubt this, just think of all the things that were "impossible" thirty
or forty years
> ago that are now commonplace. The curve is only getting steeper, too!
:-) blind faith.
>
> Your "tensor calculus" posts ARE off topic...this is CRYOnet, not MATHnet
> or PHYSICSnet. Please do us all a huge favor and try to stay on topic, or
> at least reasonably close.
> Cheers,
> Steve
Non local force fields and discontinuous one may be the big next step in
physics and so in instrumentation. That is the key to reanimation technology.
I have given the example of quotien fields everywhere accelerated as a source
of light inside the body able to destroy toxic molecules and power
mitochondria before the general blood circulation start again. This is a key
application and without the tensor background it is Harry Potter science. You
may don't want to read the theory behind a technology, but if you want to
understand what is going on, you must have a reference background in cryonet
archives.
Yvan Bozzonetti.
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